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Subject: Re: Shredder Classic 1.3 vs Spike Mainz so far 9 to 5

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 18:32:07 08/18/05

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On August 18, 2005 at 21:09:09, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote:

>On August 17, 2005 at 13:28:40, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On August 17, 2005 at 09:36:20, Volker Böhm wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Jorge,
>>>
>>>in my opignon there is no "proper way" to make a tournament. We do know that you
>>>need a large amount of games, to judge the playing strenght of an engine. Even
>>>with 1000 games there is an Error of about +/- 20 Elo in the raiting. In a
>>>tournament of 7, 9 or 11 games it is never sure that the best engine will win
>>>the tournament if there are enough engines with acceptable strength compared to
>>>the best engine.
>>>
>>>There are good rating lists with 1000 or more games per engines where you can
>>>easily find out which engine is currently the strongest. In any list that I know
>>>Shredder has the first position. If this is enough to win any tournament then
>>>why make one?
>>>
>>>
>>>Greetings Volker
>>
>>This small match of 40 games is only suppose to give us an idea of the average
>>rating of Spike 1.0, since we all know what is the Rating of Shredder in normal
>>Chess. The difference in rating between normal chess and Chess960 should not be
>>-30 to +30 even if Shredder FRC has a problem with the early Queen activation,
>>which sometimes causes shredder FRC to lose a game or two.
>>
>>Jorge.
>
>What is the rating of Shredder Classsic 1.3?
>
>You do know that this isn't the same engine as Shredder 9 (UCI).
>I think it was mention here sometime ago that the Classic engine was about 150
>elo weaker than Shredder 9, but I don't know anybody who have tested it in
>matches against different engines.
>
>Odd Gunnar

It is not important.
He does not test what he means to test(using a simgle position of shuffle chess
is not a serious way to compare between engines so we even do not get a
comparison between spike and shredder classic.

Uri



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