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Subject: Re: Zappa-Isichess

Author: Thomas Mayer

Date: 00:35:43 08/20/05

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Hi Arturo,

On August 19, 2005 at 20:49:56, Arturo Ochoa wrote:

>On August 19, 2005 at 20:36:45, Uri Blass wrote:
>>On August 19, 2005 at 19:50:08, Richard Pijl wrote:
>>>On August 19, 2005 at 15:43:01, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:
>>>>On August 19, 2005 at 15:26:55, A. Cozzie wrote:
>>>>>Here I screwed my book creator, because the horrible, horrible Fritz interface
>>>>>resets the book options every time you touch the mouse, and played with
>>>>>incorrect options.  But somehow Zappa managed to slip into the win anyway;
>>>>>perhaps it was a bit lucky.
>>>>Never play with the cb-gui. It had cost a lot of programs points in the history
>>>>of wccc.
>>>>I hope Zappa 2.0 is still uci and can be used in Arena.
>>>Zappa's book requires the CB-GUI
>>I think that it is unfair to use books that require the CB-GUI
>>If I understand correctly it means that the GUI choose the book moves and not
>>the engine so the author is using something external program to help him to
>>select moves.
>>I think that the engine needs to choose all the moves(otherwise the playing
>>thing is not original work of the author and the authors of the chessbase gui
>>should be mentioned as part of the team).
>Uri Blass, the king of the absurd arguments.

in this case I think there is nothing absurd in his arguments. He may have
expressed it not that clever, but you may take a look on what Bob has written
about that topic.

IMO Bob is fully right, sharing active GUI's and there book tools is not
something we should support. But well, as long the ICGA does not care about
that, there is not much we can do against it.

The strangest thing to me was once Vincent in Paderborn. First he did play the
opening moves with the ChessBase GUI and then switches to his own GUI and play
with that the rest of the game. This was in Paderborn 2005 - and as this tourney
has a special atmosphere I would never complain -> but for sure I wouldn't have
accepted this in WCCC. And that when I know that especially Vincent is one of
those which want to see the engine playing all moves and not some sort of GUI.
(By the way, when I read what Bob wrote this seems to be one point where Bob and
Vincent fully agree - remarkable... :)

Greets, Thomas

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