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Subject: Re: WCCC 2005 after round 8 (Zappa 1st and Crafty 2nd place )

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 01:09:57 08/20/05

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On August 20, 2005 at 03:09:40, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On August 19, 2005 at 23:14:34, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>It looks as if Zappa will get the first place by simply drawing two more games,
>>and Crafty will secure the 2nd place based on the opponents left that it has to
>>play.
>>
>>Jorge
>
>its a pity that crafty had not more luck. i would have welcomed it to see crafty
>win.
>
>Shredder seems to have a weak stage. first the tournament in mainz and now the
>disapointing behaviour in iceland.
>
>the main surprise are the strong new programs
>
>zappa, spike, glaurung, fruit, toga, naum, ktulu.
>
>this is really exciting.
>
>
>i wonder how or why zappa has so high evaluation.
>
>and i wonder why fruit plays strong but fails in impressive key move sacs in
>test suits.

I think that one of the reasons may be pruning that is counter productive in
finding key moves but productive in searching deeper and helps to find better
positional moves.

On my A3000
Fruit2.1 needs depth 16 and more than 10 minutes to find Bxh6 but if I turn off
history based pruning in fruit it can find Bxh6 at depth 13 and in less than 5
minutes but chess is not game of sacrifices and it is more important to find
better positional moves.

Note that I guess that Fruit WCCC is faster than Fruit2.1 in finding Bxh6
because I know that it predicted this move in the pv when it played Nxb6 against
Crafty.

Uri



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