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Subject: Re: WCCC 2005 after round 8 (Zappa 1st and Crafty 2nd place )

Author: Theo van der Storm

Date: 01:34:05 08/20/05

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On August 20, 2005 at 00:05:14, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On August 19, 2005 at 23:14:34, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On August 19, 2005 at 21:16:35, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On August 19, 2005 at 18:36:57, Theo van der Storm wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Uri, hi Enrico,
>>>>>
>>>>>I corrected the table and the PGN file on my website.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Patrick
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>>Now we have the same.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.computerschaak.nl/wk2005.html
>>>>
>>>>  # Name              1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8   P    BU   SB     G
>>>>  1 Zappa           11w1  2b1  3w1 12b=  8w1  9b1  5w1 10w1  7.5  25.5 25.25  8
>>>>  2 Deep Sjeng       9b=  1w0 10b1  6w=  4b1  7w1 11b1  5b=  5.5  33.5 19.25  8
>>>>  3 Fruit            8b1  9w1  1b0 10w=  6b1  4w1  7b0 11w1  5.5  31.0 18.50  8
>>>>  4 Crafty           6b=  5b1  7w1 11b1  2w0  3b0 12w1  8b1  5.5  30.5 16.75  8
>>>>  5 Deep Junior     12b1  4w0  8b1  7w1  9b1 11w1  1b0  2w=  5.5  29.5 13.75  8
>>>>  6 Shredder         4w=  7b1 11w1  2b=  3w0 12b1  8w1  9b=  5.5  27.5 15.25  8
>>>>  7 Diep            10b1  6w0  4b0  5b0 11w1  2b0  3w1 12b1  4.0  31.0  9.00  8
>>>>  8 Jonny            3w0 12b1  5w0  9w1  1b0 10w1  6b0  4w0  3.0  34.5  5.00  8
>>>>  9 The Baron        2w=  3b0 12w1  8b0  5w0  1w0 10b=  6w=  2.5  35.0  7.00  8
>>>> 10 IsiChess MMX     7w0 11b0  2w0  3b= 12w1  8b0  9w=  1b0  2.0  29.5  4.50  8
>>>> 11 The Crazy Bishop 1b0 10w1  6b0  4w0  7b0  5b0  2w0  3b0  1.0  41.0  2.00  8
>>>> 12 Fute             5w0  8w0  9b0  1w= 10b0  6w0  4b0  7w0  0.5  35.5  3.75  8
>>>>
>>>>  # Name                 1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12   P    BU   SB     G
>>>>  1 Zappa                X  1  1  .  1  .  .  1  1  1  1  ½   7.5  25.5 25.25  8
>>>>  2 Deep Sjeng           0  X  .  1  ½  ½  1  .  ½  1  1  .   5.5  33.5 19.25  8
>>>>  3 Fruit                0  .  X  1  .  1  0  1  1  ½  1  .   5.5  31.0 18.50  8
>>>>  4 Crafty               .  0  0  X  1  ½  1  1  .  .  1  1   5.5  30.5 16.75  8
>>>>  5 Deep Junior          0  ½  .  0  X  .  1  1  1  .  1  1   5.5  29.5 13.75  8
>>>>  6 Shredder             .  ½  0  ½  .  X  1  1  ½  .  1  1   5.5  27.5 15.25  8
>>>>  7 Diep                 .  0  1  0  0  0  X  .  .  1  1  1   4.0  31.0  9.00  8
>>>>  8 Jonny                0  .  0  0  0  0  .  X  1  1  .  1   3.0  34.5  5.00  8
>>>>  9 The Baron            0  ½  0  .  0  ½  .  0  X  ½  .  1   2.5  35.0  7.00  8
>>>> 10 IsiChess MMX         0  0  ½  .  .  .  0  0  ½  X  0  1   2.0  29.5  4.50  8
>>>> 11 The Crazy Bishop     0  0  0  0  0  0  0  .  .  1  X  .   1.0  41.0  2.00  8
>>>> 12 Fute                 ½  .  .  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  .  X   0.5  35.5  3.75  8
>>>>
>>>>Zappa extends his lead thanks to draws by Junior-Sjeng and The Baron-Shredder.
>>>>
>>>>Theo
>>>
>>>
>>>1.  Isn't the "BU" number going to be pointless and the same for everyone once
>>>all 11 rounds are over?
>>>
>>>2.  what is the official tie-break scheme assuming two or more programs end tied
>>>for any one place, since this is a RR event?
>>
>>
>>It looks as if Zappa will get the first place by simply drawing two more games,
>>and Crafty will secure the 2nd place based on the opponents left that it has to
>>play.

All at 5.5 now can finish second place.
Your speculation has no merit.

>>Jorge
>
>I was really asking about how the TD is going to resolve ties.  For example, two
>programs tie for 2nd.  One gets 2nd place, one gets 3rd.  But in a round-robin,
>the usual sum of opponent's scores is no good since both will have the same
>total...

It will be the same, not for everyone, but for players with an equal number of
points, so it cannot serve tie-breaking purposes.
Half way the tournament it gave a nice impression of the opposition already met.

>The question was, was this discussed in the player's meeting and what was
>decided, or was it forgotten...

>2.  what is the official tie-break scheme assuming two or more programs end tied
>for any one place, since this is a RR event?

I'm sure we'll here about this before tomorrow.

Theo



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