Author: Peter Skinner
Date: 08:52:24 08/20/05
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On August 20, 2005 at 11:42:45, George Speight wrote:
>I applaud the programmers of Zappa and Fruit. They have extremely strong
>programs and should be proud. But lets face facts. Run a best of 50 match
>between Shredder and either of the above. Its easy to talk about what the result
>would be. But i can guarantee u one thing. If Las Vegas gave betting odds on it
>and u wanted to get in line to bet YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY against Shredder, you
>wouldnt have a long wait. When push came to shove and the talk was over, it
>would be a real short line. Regards, George
I wouldn't say that Shredder is dead. It is just having a bad tournament.
Anything can happen in a one game situation. The level of play in this year's
tournament is quite high. If you import the pgn into a new Chessbase book the
performance ratio is incredible. 2650+...
Using elostat and starting with a base rating of 2500...
Program Elo + - Games Score Av.Op.
Draws
1 Zappa : 2938 108 322 9 94.4 % 2446 11.1
%
2 Fruit : 2658 309 259 9 72.2 % 2492 11.1
%
3 Junior : 2618 309 259 9 72.2 % 2452 11.1
%
4 Deep Sjeng : 2598 214 205 9 61.1 % 2519 33.3
%
5 Crafty : 2578 250 229 9 66.7 % 2458 22.2
%
6 Shredder : 2573 214 205 9 61.1 % 2494 33.3
%
7 Jonny : 2430 247 267 9 38.9 % 2509 11.1
%
8 The Baron : 2414 177 195 9 33.3 % 2534 44.4
%
9 Diep : 2386 247 267 9 38.9 % 2464 11.1
%
10 The Crazy Bishop : 2312 298 382 9 22.2 % 2529 0.0
%
11 IsiChess : 2281 242 283 9 22.2 % 2498 22.2
%
12 Fute MT : 2215 296 320 9 16.7 % 2494 11.1
%
Shredder is _still_ performing about the start elo values.
Call it unlucky.. call it a bad tournament.. just dont count it out yet.
Shredder will still rip 99% of the programs apart in a 50 game match.
Peter
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