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Subject: Re: Death of Shredder?????

Author: George Speight

Date: 09:07:45 08/20/05

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On August 20, 2005 at 11:52:24, Peter Skinner wrote:

>On August 20, 2005 at 11:42:45, George Speight wrote:
>
>>I applaud the programmers of Zappa and Fruit. They have extremely strong
>>programs and should be proud. But lets face facts. Run a best of 50 match
>>between Shredder and either of the above. Its easy to talk about what the result
>>would be. But i can guarantee u one thing. If Las Vegas gave betting odds on it
>>and u wanted to get in line to bet YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY against Shredder, you
>>wouldnt have a long wait. When push came to shove and the talk was over, it
>>would be a real short line.   Regards, George
>
>I wouldn't say that Shredder is dead. It is just having a bad tournament.
>
>Anything can happen in a one game situation. The level of play in this year's
>tournament is quite high. If you import the pgn into a new Chessbase book the
>performance ratio is incredible. 2650+...
>
>Using elostat and starting with a base rating of 2500...
>
>
>
>    Program                          Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.
>Draws
>
>  1 Zappa                          : 2938  108 322     9    94.4 %   2446   11.1
>%
>  2 Fruit                          : 2658  309 259     9    72.2 %   2492   11.1
>%
>  3 Junior                         : 2618  309 259     9    72.2 %   2452   11.1
>%
>  4 Deep Sjeng                     : 2598  214 205     9    61.1 %   2519   33.3
>%
>  5 Crafty                         : 2578  250 229     9    66.7 %   2458   22.2
>%
>  6 Shredder                       : 2573  214 205     9    61.1 %   2494   33.3
>%
>  7 Jonny                          : 2430  247 267     9    38.9 %   2509   11.1
>%
>  8 The Baron                      : 2414  177 195     9    33.3 %   2534   44.4
>%
>  9 Diep                           : 2386  247 267     9    38.9 %   2464   11.1
>%
> 10 The Crazy Bishop               : 2312  298 382     9    22.2 %   2529    0.0
>%
> 11 IsiChess                       : 2281  242 283     9    22.2 %   2498   22.2
>%
> 12 Fute MT                        : 2215  296 320     9    16.7 %   2494   11.1
>%
>
>Shredder is _still_ performing about the start elo values.
>
>Call it unlucky.. call it a bad tournament.. just dont count it out yet.
>Shredder will still rip 99% of the programs apart in a 50 game match.
>
>Peter
>Well said, my friend. Nothing for me to add to that!   George



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