Author: Uri Blass
Date: 16:47:58 08/20/05
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On August 20, 2005 at 16:31:26, Drexel,Michael wrote: >On August 20, 2005 at 16:17:34, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On August 20, 2005 at 16:06:56, Drexel,Michael wrote: >> >>>On August 20, 2005 at 15:57:58, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On August 20, 2005 at 15:45:47, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >>>> >>>>>>i do hope they sell this program for money. >>>>>> >>>>>>IMO it is worth the money they would take. >>>>>> >>>>>>for all others version 1.0 is free. >>>>>>but i would like to see them making some profit out of it. >>>>>> >>>>>>why not ? >>>>> >>>>>I don't mind spending money on chess engines, not at all infact as i have spent >>>>>too much in proportion to what is rational :) >>>>> >>>>>However i think that it might be a mistake to try and profit from a program like >>>>>Zappa, as the time and energy it takes in setting up sales, costumer service, >>>>>webpage, extra gimmicks etc etc. in proportion to what you stand to earn >>>>>potentially is not worth it guess as the return, if any, would be really small >>>>>plus that time and energy could be spent making the engine even better. >>>>> >>>>>So unless Chessbase is waving a big check, i suspect it would be too much work >>>>>for too little money. (i would buy it myself, but what would "the average joe" >>>>>pick, chessmaster or ...Zappa). >>>>> >>>>>Jonas >>>> >>>>The average Joe is not important and I guess that there are going to be >>>>something like 10,000 buyers who are going to buy zappa for 50$ only as uci >>>>engine with no interface in the next year in case that it is sold. >>>> >>>>If 10$ of it is money that the programmer is going to earn then he can earn >>>>100,000$ for one year. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>Most of your 10.000 buyers download Toga II and have something which performs >>>most probably much better on their single processor machine. >>>Just look at Kurts unbelievable results. >>> >>>Michael >> >>I am not sure about it because zappa is significantly improved so you do not >>know if TogaII performs better than it on one processor. >> >>I tend to believe the opposite but I am not sure about it. >> >>Uri > >The WCCC is played with different hardware,different books and special >preparation for the opponents. >I would never make any conclusions about playing strength of the engines >from such a tourney. > >Michael Fruit2.1 is free source code for 2 months and as Fabien said it still has search bugs and the same for Fruit of WCCC. I do not tend to believe that nobody could learn from it to generate significantly better program so I tend to believe that there is something significantly better than TogaII It does not seem to be Junior or Shredder or Sjeng based on the results and the only logical guess is new zappa. Uri
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