Author: Bahram Namjou
Date: 17:02:11 08/20/05
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zappa definitely still is not good in blitz games (less than 10 minutes). I saw Hiarcs beat it in a row! 5-0 in playchess..bn On August 20, 2005 at 19:47:58, Uri Blass wrote: >On August 20, 2005 at 16:31:26, Drexel,Michael wrote: > >>On August 20, 2005 at 16:17:34, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On August 20, 2005 at 16:06:56, Drexel,Michael wrote: >>> >>>>On August 20, 2005 at 15:57:58, Uri Blass wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 20, 2005 at 15:45:47, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>i do hope they sell this program for money. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>IMO it is worth the money they would take. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>for all others version 1.0 is free. >>>>>>>but i would like to see them making some profit out of it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>why not ? >>>>>> >>>>>>I don't mind spending money on chess engines, not at all infact as i have spent >>>>>>too much in proportion to what is rational :) >>>>>> >>>>>>However i think that it might be a mistake to try and profit from a program like >>>>>>Zappa, as the time and energy it takes in setting up sales, costumer service, >>>>>>webpage, extra gimmicks etc etc. in proportion to what you stand to earn >>>>>>potentially is not worth it guess as the return, if any, would be really small >>>>>>plus that time and energy could be spent making the engine even better. >>>>>> >>>>>>So unless Chessbase is waving a big check, i suspect it would be too much work >>>>>>for too little money. (i would buy it myself, but what would "the average joe" >>>>>>pick, chessmaster or ...Zappa). >>>>>> >>>>>>Jonas >>>>> >>>>>The average Joe is not important and I guess that there are going to be >>>>>something like 10,000 buyers who are going to buy zappa for 50$ only as uci >>>>>engine with no interface in the next year in case that it is sold. >>>>> >>>>>If 10$ of it is money that the programmer is going to earn then he can earn >>>>>100,000$ for one year. >>>>> >>>>>Uri >>>> >>>>Most of your 10.000 buyers download Toga II and have something which performs >>>>most probably much better on their single processor machine. >>>>Just look at Kurts unbelievable results. >>>> >>>>Michael >>> >>>I am not sure about it because zappa is significantly improved so you do not >>>know if TogaII performs better than it on one processor. >>> >>>I tend to believe the opposite but I am not sure about it. >>> >>>Uri >> >>The WCCC is played with different hardware,different books and special >>preparation for the opponents. >>I would never make any conclusions about playing strength of the engines >>from such a tourney. >> >>Michael > >Fruit2.1 is free source code for 2 months and as Fabien said it still has search >bugs and the same for Fruit of WCCC. > >I do not tend to believe that nobody could learn from it to generate >significantly better program so I tend to believe that there is something >significantly better than TogaII > >It does not seem to be Junior or Shredder or Sjeng based on the results and the >only logical guess is new zappa. > >Uri
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