Author: Bahram Namjou
Date: 19:20:26 08/20/05
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I don't know...I think it says (zappa 1.0), May be this is a free version...bn On August 20, 2005 at 20:09:49, gerold daniels wrote: >On August 20, 2005 at 20:02:11, Bahram Namjou wrote: > >>zappa definitely still is not good in blitz games (less than 10 minutes). I saw >>Hiarcs beat it in a row! 5-0 in playchess..bn >> >Was it the same Zappa that just won the world championship. > >>On August 20, 2005 at 19:47:58, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On August 20, 2005 at 16:31:26, Drexel,Michael wrote: >>> >>>>On August 20, 2005 at 16:17:34, Uri Blass wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 20, 2005 at 16:06:56, Drexel,Michael wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On August 20, 2005 at 15:57:58, Uri Blass wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On August 20, 2005 at 15:45:47, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>i do hope they sell this program for money. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>IMO it is worth the money they would take. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>for all others version 1.0 is free. >>>>>>>>>but i would like to see them making some profit out of it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>why not ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I don't mind spending money on chess engines, not at all infact as i have spent >>>>>>>>too much in proportion to what is rational :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>However i think that it might be a mistake to try and profit from a program like >>>>>>>>Zappa, as the time and energy it takes in setting up sales, costumer service, >>>>>>>>webpage, extra gimmicks etc etc. in proportion to what you stand to earn >>>>>>>>potentially is not worth it guess as the return, if any, would be really small >>>>>>>>plus that time and energy could be spent making the engine even better. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>So unless Chessbase is waving a big check, i suspect it would be too much work >>>>>>>>for too little money. (i would buy it myself, but what would "the average joe" >>>>>>>>pick, chessmaster or ...Zappa). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Jonas >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The average Joe is not important and I guess that there are going to be >>>>>>>something like 10,000 buyers who are going to buy zappa for 50$ only as uci >>>>>>>engine with no interface in the next year in case that it is sold. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If 10$ of it is money that the programmer is going to earn then he can earn >>>>>>>100,000$ for one year. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Uri >>>>>> >>>>>>Most of your 10.000 buyers download Toga II and have something which performs >>>>>>most probably much better on their single processor machine. >>>>>>Just look at Kurts unbelievable results. >>>>>> >>>>>>Michael >>>>> >>>>>I am not sure about it because zappa is significantly improved so you do not >>>>>know if TogaII performs better than it on one processor. >>>>> >>>>>I tend to believe the opposite but I am not sure about it. >>>>> >>>>>Uri >>>> >>>>The WCCC is played with different hardware,different books and special >>>>preparation for the opponents. >>>>I would never make any conclusions about playing strength of the engines >>>>from such a tourney. >>>> >>>>Michael >>> >>>Fruit2.1 is free source code for 2 months and as Fabien said it still has search >>>bugs and the same for Fruit of WCCC. >>> >>>I do not tend to believe that nobody could learn from it to generate >>>significantly better program so I tend to believe that there is something >>>significantly better than TogaII >>> >>>It does not seem to be Junior or Shredder or Sjeng based on the results and the >>>only logical guess is new zappa. >>> >>>Uri
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