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Subject: Re: RE: I apologize.

Author: Micheal Cummings

Date: 05:23:33 02/24/99

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On February 24, 1999 at 05:50:33, Thom Perry wrote:

>On February 23, 1999 at 18:58:22, Micheal Cummings wrote:
>
>>
>>On February 23, 1999 at 13:44:44, Dan Kiski wrote:
>>
>>>On February 23, 1999 at 11:22:27, Thom Perry wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 23, 1999 at 09:48:55, Dan Kiski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 23, 1999 at 04:32:08, Tina Long wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On February 21, 1999 at 19:50:13, Micheal Cummings wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Rich just post the game score to shut these people up. We all know I like CM6K
>>>>>>>and would just love to shut these people up once and for all, my games played
>>>>>>>against Rebel 10 using the so called cooked opening books are the same, CM6K
>>>>>>>thinks mainly on Rebel 10's thinking time, and in allot of cases has anywhere up
>>>>>>>to 50 minutes more time on Rebel 10, this is not always the case but usually is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Keep up the good work, anything Good CM6K does I always like to hear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Michael,
>>>>>>Once you were caught you admitted that you were using books created by your
>>>>>>"Friend". i.e. COOKED BOOKS for Rebel only, you didn't even reverse the
>>>>>>openings to make it a little fair. So skip the "so called" part.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. g3 sheesh!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tina Long,
>>>>>
>>>>>Michael clearly made no extravagent claims in that post and when asked openly
>>>>>admitted using a non standard book. That is somewhat different from this case
>>>>>where it seems that only results are claimed without even giving the game
>>>>>scores. Your statements make it appear that Michael was trying to acheive
>>>>>something with his post and I'm not even sure the "cooked books" statement is
>>>>>fair since he was only experimenting.
>>>>>Dan Kiski.
>>>>
>>>>I agree with Tina. As I recall, it wasn't until someone questioned the 1. g3
>>>>openings that the information about the "experimental" or "cooked" [or whatever
>>>>you choose to call it] opening book came to light. Why not simply play the
>>>>programs heads up without "experimenting" unless you wanted to make sure that
>>>>CM6K would win? And if it were experimental, this should have been mentioned
>>>>before the games were posted.
>>>
>>>But Michael only posted one game without happening to mention every single
>>>detail, missing one, a slip on his part, which anyone checking the game as we
>>>all do could easily see. And that don't make sure that the CM6K would win
>>>because the book was experimental, it just means the book was experimental, not
>>>"cooked".
>>>Dan Kiski.
>>
>>
>>Thom I explained all this and if you want to look at this in a negative way then
>>I cannot help that, but let me explain it to you again. The game had just
>>finished, I had 20 minutes till I had to go to work, so I copied the moves to a
>>txt file, and then added what hardware I was using and hash tables. I got on the
>>net and copied and pasted all of that to here.
>>
>>After that you will see I forgot to say what time control I was using so I
>>posted again the time control, with 2 minutes till I had to catch the train I
>>got off the net, I posted the games to see what reaction I would get to this
>>type of game. I got back on a while later to see something about the g3 move, I
>>explained this as an oversight and that I forgot to add this due to me being in
>>a rush and corrected it.
>>
>>I still do not understand how you think I could be so dumb as to try a fool
>>people on here who know more about computer chess than me as to play an opening
>>move that one of the worlds best chess programs do not play.
>>
>>You are basically Tina and Thom calling me dishonest, I take offense to that, I
>>explained how this happened you have given your opinion which is not true so
>>just shut up about it, keep on saying this over and over again like Tina has
>>been is just a plain personal attack.
>
>Sorry.  I apparently missed some key messages back then as I had
>remembered the event differently.


Not a problem Thom, now I just wish my fellow Aussie Lady Tina would do the
same. but being an Aussie like me, I do not think so :-)



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