Author: Joseph Anthony Merolle
Date: 16:04:22 08/21/05
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On August 21, 2005 at 13:26:34, Joseph Anthony Merolle wrote: >On August 21, 2005 at 13:14:24, Joseph Anthony Merolle wrote: > >>On August 21, 2005 at 12:28:21, Günther Simon wrote: >> >>>On August 21, 2005 at 12:08:35, Joseph Anthony Merolle wrote: >>> >>>>On August 21, 2005 at 11:08:09, Joseph Anthony Merolle wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 21, 2005 at 06:53:20, Günther Simon wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On August 21, 2005 at 06:20:04, Joseph Anthony Merolle wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On August 21, 2005 at 06:13:18, Leo Dijksman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On August 21, 2005 at 05:47:18, Joseph Anthony Merolle wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>It seem that when running chess applications such as S9 uci and S9 CB there >>>>>>>>>seems to be a leak of some kind. When playing a game my KNS seems to be running >>>>>>>>>optimally however as the game goes on my KNS tanks dramatically. For example I >>>>>>>>>can start off 400 kns hitting plys of 18 for about 5 moves or so then as the >>>>>>>>>game goes on it tanks to 27kns with plys of 8-10. Some times it picks up again >>>>>>>>>only to tank. I ran extensive diagnostics and nothing failed. I also ran AVG >>>>>>>>>virus protection nothing was found and there is no throttling with throttle >>>>>>>>>watch. Is there a problem with my computer, my install or applications (Shredder >>>>>>>>>9, Chessbase and UCI)?. Any help in correcting this problem/s would be must >>>>>>>>>appreciated. Below is my system config. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Processor Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz >>>>>>>>>Processor Speed 1.56 GHz >>>>>>>>>Memory (RAM) 256 MB >>>>>>>>>Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition >>>>>>>>>Operating System Version 5.1.2600 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Jospeh >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>You did not say how much you use for hashtables and egtbs, probably you have set >>>>>>>>it to high!? (Use 64MB or less) >>>>>>>>Is 256MB RAM not a bit low for this PC? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Leo. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Leo , >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Sorry to say my hash is set low (44) and this still this happens. My tb is set >>>>>>>to factory setting. With nothing running in back ground ether.. Thanks for your >>>>>>>reply >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Joseph >>>>>> >>>>>>Disable XPs' automatical system recovery feature during the matches, >>>>>>that should help, if not please ask again. >>>>>>(when saying you run nothing in background, I guess you mean you also >>>>>>have disabled AVG?) >>>>>> >>>>>>Guenther >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Guenther , >>>>> >>>>>Thanks for the advise however can you tell me how to disable the system >>>>>recoverly feature. In the mean time I will get some test positions and will post >>>>>as aked for. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Joseph >>>> >>>> >>>>Ok here is an example with a test position >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>6rk/1NR2p1p/8/3Qq3/3p4/PP1n1pPP/5P2/6K1 w - - >>>> >>>>Here Rook C7 is the rt move which my system finds however at 5 min of analisis >>>>look at how the kns tanks. The hash is set to 96 mb if I dont set it that high >>>>the system never finds Rook C7 because it tanks to fast. However the same >>>>tanking happens with lower hash (44.) I know it s not a hash problem (set to >>>>high) because the position would never get off the ground (486 k/ns)(in the >>>>first place if it was. Again there is nothing running in back ground in addition >>>>I made sure to start with a fresh rebut. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>13/24 0:01 +2.55 1.Rc6 Qf4 (446.782) 357 >>>> 14/29 0:01 +2.55 1.Rc6 Qf4 (749.100) 396 >>>> 15/46 0:17 +2.30-- 1.Rc6 Qf4 (8.472.320) 478 >>>> 15/46 0:24 +1.81 1.Rc6 Rg5 2.Qd8+ Qxd8 3.Nxd8 Kg7 4.Rd6 Rc5 5.Rd7 Rc1+ >>>>(11.779.622) 487 >>>> 15/46 0:27 +1.82++ 1.Rc7 (13.325.340) 485 >>>> 15/46 0:29 +2.17++ 1.Rc7 (14.435.217) 486 >>>> 15/46 0:35 +2.42 1.Rc7 Nf4 2.Qxf3 Nxh3+ 3.Kg2 (17.162.410) 486 >>>> 16/42 0:58 +2.67++ 1.Rc7 Nf4 (25.562.221) 438 >>>> 16/42 5:18 +2.68 1.Rc7 Qe5 2.Qxe5+ Nxe5 3.Re7 (32.512.932) 102 >>>> >>>> >>>>as you can see after 5 min analisis a horible 102 k/ns and droping at that.... >>>> >>>> >>>>Thank s for any additional help >>>> >>>> >>>>Joseph >>> >>> >>>Hi Joseph, >>> >>>For deactivating the system recovery: >>> >>>-> system control -> system -> system recovery >>>-> check option deactivate >>> >>>You did not say though, that you were talking about position analysis >>>(not games)and here especially late middle game, early endgame analysis. >>>It may be that your slow down is a normal one, because of tablebases >>>kicking in! Your last main line probably hits already a lot of tablebases >>>and tbs probing can slow down kn/s to 25% sometimes, depends on the engine! >>>I guess you probably have installed all 5 men and use them in your >>>example? >>>You can try to disable all tablebases for your test position above and >>>it should not show such a slow down, _if_ all is ok with your machine >>>setup. >>> >>>Regards, >>>Guenther >> >> >>No, not just position analysis I first noticed the problem playing engine >>matches on Play.com. I started droping games (all) to people with 1/2 the >>processor speed so I started to investigate. Then I noticed the dramatic K/ns >>droping even with most men stll on the board so I know its not a TB issus. >> >> >>:-( > > >Guenther , > > >Even after turning off TBs the same thing happens really what is happening is my >CPU is not maintaining Clock speed. > > >Joe Haveing loaded S9 Chessbase and S9 Uci there lies the problem. Its seems haveing both aplications on hard drive confuses both programs. What I did was take S9 Chessbase off then loaded S8 and upgraded. Now K/ns stablized and winning games on Playchess. Infact both programs seemed to benifit with no K/ns tanking. :-)
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