Author: Uri Blass
Date: 02:41:04 08/22/05
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On August 22, 2005 at 04:07:18, Peter Skinner wrote: >On August 22, 2005 at 02:02:15, Uri Blass wrote: > >>I think that you do not realize that 1 free engine that is superior is enough to >>make them worry. > >I don't think so. So one or two engines _might_ be able to take a few games off >them here and there. > >The random factor kicks in here though. If the commercials were to top the IPCCC >or WCCC next year, then there is nothing to talk about. > >It seems one or two tournaments justify allot of conjecture and hand waving.. > >>No way >> >>I expect fruit WCCC to beat the commercial programs in a match of 50 games >>if one processor is used and there is no learning problem for fruit. > >I would sell my ex-wife into slavery if that happened (well I'd probably do this >anyway.. but you get the point). You _seriously_ underestimate the Chessbase >interface most commercials run under. I think that you understimate fabien. > >>I expect Fruit to top the SSDF if fabien only send them fruit WCCC with >>learning. >> >>Uri > >I don't think that based on the number of opponents it would face that it would >steal the #1 spot away from Shredder. Then again I don't even think it would >steal the #2 stop from Junior (removing all previous Shredder versions puts >Junior #2). I do not think Fruit2.1 will do it but I guess that the ssdf is going to test better fruit that fabien will release later this year(it is going to have the improvement in fruit WCCC and it is also going to have book learning). > >You also bring up learning, yet no more than a week ago you stated it wasn't >important at all because the number of possible positions it could face. I do not think that I said that learning is not important for long matches like the ssdf does but I expect fabien to implement learning before sending fruit to the ssdf testers. Uri
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