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Subject: Re: Shredder - Toga II first look

Author: Thomas Logan

Date: 02:48:26 08/22/05

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On August 22, 2005 at 02:55:07, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>On August 21, 2005 at 21:06:58, Thomas Logan wrote:
>
>>On August 21, 2005 at 19:56:20, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On August 21, 2005 at 19:48:42, Thomas Logan wrote:
>>>
>>>>THOMAS-KBZT8WLT, 40'/40+40'/40+40'  0
>>>>
>>>>                 123456
>>>>1   Shredder 9   110011  4.0/6
>>>>2   Toga II 1.0  001100  2.0/6
>>>>
>>>>Its quite early but I do not think we have a Shredder destroyer here
>>>>but testing will continue
>>>>
>>>>IMHO there is no evidence of Shredder being surplanted by a non commercial or a
>>>>commercial for that matter
>>>>
>>>>Zappa if/when released should be an interresting test
>>>>
>>>>Tom
>>>
>>>I believe that the same as shredder against Fruit WCCC
>>>It is clear that furit WCCC one processor destroyed Shredder 4 processors so
>>>probably beating shredder with one processor is no problem for it.
>>>
>>Hi Uri
>>
>>It is hard to come to a conclusion based upon 1 game
>>
>>Factors inhibiting a conclusion
>>
>>Fruit wcc is not yet available for testing
>>
>>We do not know what version of Shredder was employed or its reliability
>>
>>The Fruit which is availble was not superior to Shredder in my testing
>>
>>So Until another Fruit is made available and proves itself superior I cannot say
>>Shredder is surplanted
>>
>>Tom
>
>      Hi Tom
>      Fruit 2.1 test (40'/40) can be seen at
>      http://www.utzingerk.com/fruit21_test.htm
>      also indicates that it is not stronger
>      than Shredder 9, see test 40'/40 at
>      http://www.utzingerk.com/shredder9_test.htm
>      Kurt

Hi Kurt

Yes I have seen this and other results as well

and I agree Fruit 2.1 is not stronger than Shredder

which until releases and victories by Wcc Fruit and/or Zappa

remains the strongest available engine

Tom







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