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Subject: Re: Chess software / hardware questions... help!

Author: Thomas Logan

Date: 04:05:04 08/22/05

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On August 22, 2005 at 06:10:02, Majd Al-Ansari wrote:

>Well I would definetely advice you to stay away from a Power Mac.  I also
>thought a few years back that going to the Mac platform was the way to
>stability.  First of all Mac's crash just as often if not more than a good well
>built PC system.  Second of all they are just too inflexible.  I know others
>think otherwise, but that is my opinion.
>
>Now with regards to what is a better platform (Intel or AMD), I think both will
>serve you well IF you choose the correct motherboard and components.  Opteron's
>have come a long way since the early days and now are EXTREMELY stable.  The
>Intel platform is also very very reliable with proper setup.
>
>AMD for chess seems to have a better performance than Intel.  I don't know why
>but they do.  The most stable Opteron board is probably Tyan, although they are
>quite expensive.  For Intel I would choose Supermicro.  These are designed for
>stability and might get edged out by other motherboards in the performance
>department ... but if your priority is stability ... then that is the way to go.
> By the way I heard that Supermicro now produce Opteron boards but I haven't
>tried it out.
>
>If you only want 2 processors maybe you don't have to go the Xeon or Opteron
>route.  You might be better served with dual core processors that both Intel and
>AMD are offering.  You can save a bundle then and you will not be tied down to
>registered buffered RAM.  If you have the cash for Opterons then you should also
>look at dual core Opterons.  This way you have 4 processors.  If you want more
>than that you can check out the new Iwill motherboard ... It can use 4 cpu units
>which means 8 cores.
>On August 22, 2005 at 02:55:26, Aloisio Ponti Lopes wrote:
>
>>I'm really tired of Windows and would like to try Power Mac G5 (Dual)/OSX Tiger,
>>or an iBook...
>>My questions are:
>>
>>1) Database software for chess to run with OSX-Tiger ? SCID ??
>>
>>2) Chess programs = Hiarcs or Chessmaster?
>>
>>3) Can I compile Xboard for Mac (or is there an already compiled version?)
>>
>>4) Program to play Internet chess with Macs= Jin ?
>>
>>Well, the other option is to build a new desktop PC, maybe a Dual Opteron? Apart
>>from R. Hyatt's opinions there are also good reviews about Dual Opteron's
>>performance in database tests (DB2 and MySQL)
>>(http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2447) in which I have some
>>interest. In this case I have some questions too:
>>
>>5)Are Dual Opterons PCs as stable as Dual Xeons?
>>
>>6)Which motherboard should I buy in case I decide to build a Dual Opteron? Power
>>supply? Memory?
>>
>>7) What about chessbase products? Deep Fritz runs faster on Intel or AMD ? Which
>>processor is faster for Deep Fritz? If it's Intel, which processor (it's a bit
>>confusing now as there are so many different models to choose...)?
>>
>>My last question:
>>
>>I'm using a Dual-MP 2600+, built it myself (very unstable... maybe it's because
>>of bad memory, or power suply, or cooler... don't know yet, I'm trying to find
>>the reason; it runs better with Linux, but sometimes hangs too :-(   ). I'd like
>>some help to fix it. Tryed changing Windows 2000 to XP Pro, but when it updates
>>to SP2 system becomes _very_ unstable, so I decided to stay with SP1, but it
>>still hangs when analysing with "Deep" engines (it doesn't matter if it's Fritz
>>or Crafty or Shredder or Junior...), or sometimes it crashes when playing
>>engine-engine matches with PONDER=ON. Fixing this problem is driving me nuts...
>>this Dual used to run very well when I was using only one DDR-266 256MB memory,
>>but I've "upgraded" it to use 2x512MB DDR-333 Samsung memory; using memtest I
>>get many errors, so I'm trying to change memory first.
>>
>>Please help...
>>
>>A. Ponti


Hi

I am looking into a quad system

Have any recommendations ?

Tom



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