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Subject: Re: Shredder - Toga II some more games

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 05:18:06 08/22/05

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On August 22, 2005 at 07:34:10, Thomas Logan wrote:

>On August 22, 2005 at 07:20:17, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>The only thing you are testing here is the quality of the book, not the quality
>>of the engines.
>>
>>But this is just a waste of time.
>>The book is crap
>>
>>Michael
>
>What book is crap ?

The opening book

>Please explain your statement
>
>Tom

I can“t look at all games now. I have noticed the game Toga came out of book in
this position:

[D]r1r3k1/pp3pp1/2n2b1p/q1PR4/8/4PN2/PPQ2PPP/1K3B1R w - - 0 15

Two pawns down and not nearly enough compensation -> 1-0

I also have noticed this game:

[Event "THOMAS-KBZT8WLT, 40'/40+40'/40+40'"]
[Site "THOMAS-KBZT8WLT"]
[Date "2005.08.21"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Toga II 1.0"]
[Black "Shredder 9"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B80"]
[Annotator "0.30;-1.12"]
[PlyCount "129"]

{W=16.1 ply; 1,067kN/s  B=17.9 ply; 612kN/s} 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4.
Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e6 7. f3 b5 8. Qd2 Nbd7 9. g4 Nb6 10. Qf2 Nfd7 11.
O-O-O Bb7 12. Bd3 Rc8 13. Nce2 Qc7 14. Kb1 d5 15. Ng3 Nc4 16. Bxc4 bxc4 17. g5
c3 18. b3 Bd6 19. exd5 Bxd5 20. Nde2 O-O 21. Bd4 Ne5 22. Bxc3 Bc5 23. Qf1 a5
24. Ne4 a4 25. Qg2 axb3 26. cxb3 Bb4 27. Rc1 Qb8 28. Bd4 Ng6 29. Qf2 Qb7 30.
N2g3 Qb5 31. Qe3 Ra8 32. Rc2 Rfd8 33. f4 Qb7 34. Rd1 Rd7 35. Ka1 Bf8 36. Rb1
Nh4 37. Nc5 Bxc5 38. Bxc5 Rdd8 39. h3 Rdc8 40. Rc3 Nf3 41. Rbc1 Nh4 42. R1c2
Rd8 43. Bb6 Rdb8 44. Ba7 Rd8 45. Bd4 Nf3 46. Bb6 Re8 47. Qc5 Ne1 48. Rc1 Ng2
49. Nh5 Nh4 50. Qf2 Nf5 51. Rb1 Qa6 52. Bc5 Rec8 53. Qb2 Qb7 54. Rg1 {
Both last book move} Ra6 {[%eval -112,17] [%emt 0:11:46]} 55. Ng3 {
[%eval 30,15] [%emt 0:03:18]} Nxg3 {(Rca8) [%eval -90,17] [%emt 0:05:58]} 56.
Rgxg3 {[%eval 46,14] [%emt 0:01:04]} Rd8 {(Qb5) [%eval -77,17] [%emt 0:03:42]}
57. Rgd3 {(Rg1) [%eval 74,16] [%emt 0:03:07]} Qc7 {
(Rda8) [%eval -62,17] [%emt 0:05:28]} 58. Qc1 {
(Rd4) [%eval 82,16] [%emt 0:02:56]} Qa5 {(Rda8) [%eval -43,18] [%emt 0:07:13]}
59. a4 {(Qc2) [%eval 115,15] [%emt 0:02:29]} Raa8 {
(Re8) [%eval -25,18] [%emt 0:03:04]} 60. Qe3 {
(Kb2) [%eval 118,16] [%emt 0:02:46]} Rdb8 {[%eval -4,17] [%emt 0:01:57]} 61. h4
{(Bd6) [%eval 125,16] [%emt 0:02:36]} Rb5 {(Qa6) [%eval -13,16] [%emt 0:01:43]}
62. Ba3 {(b4) [%eval 144,15] [%emt 0:01:52]} Re8 {
(Rb7) [%eval 157,17] [%emt 0:09:15]} 63. Bb2 {
(h5) [%eval 257,15] [%emt 0:09:11]} Bxb3 {(Qa8) [%eval 179,17] [%emt 0:05:49]}
64. Rxb3 {[%eval 295,15] [%emt 0:00:58]} Rxb3 {
(Qxa4+) [%eval 179,17] [%emt 0:02:32]} 65. Rxb3 {
adjud. [%eval 296,16] [%emt 0:00:59]} 1-0

54 book moves ??
Probably there are some lines in this book where the engine comes out of book
and is mated one move later :)

Michael



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