Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Someone Please help me settle this Rather annoying Computer Chess Bo

Author: José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba

Date: 08:49:08 02/24/99

Go up one level in this thread


On February 23, 1999 at 21:08:04, Micheal Cummings wrote:

>
>On February 23, 1999 at 20:59:21, Jonathan Oliver wrote:
>
>>Dear All,
>>
>>    I believe that the simple solution to this problem is playing the two
>>programs against each other using the same opening books.  I don't know much
>>about opening book compatibility between programs, but if the same opening book
>>could be used on two different programs this would settle the argument.  The two
>>programs would then be playing completely equally(except for the difference in
>>engines.  This would be the true test of Engines!
>>
>>Does anyone agree with me or am I off my rocker?
>>
>>J.(knows little about computer chess, but tries) Oliver
>
>
>WOW, I had the same idea, playing the CM6K opening book with Rebel 10, but when
>I did this and Rebel lost, well gee no body seemed to like that.

	Of course Rebel fans did not like that. It is an interesting experiment that
reveals weaknesses of the engine that otherwise are not apparent. But it does
not reflect the overall program strength.

>So that idea is
>shot down in flames, because from what I hear the Rebel opening book is made for
>Rebel and so it can play its best game with that opening book.

	Sure. Rebel's book is meant to fit the Rebel's engine style. Playing with other
book will most likely reduce the playing strenght.

>So yes you are
>off you rocker in the eyes of many here.
>
>As for other programs I am not sure, but CM6K can play a g3 opening move and
>still beat Rebel 10 even with Rebels own book, not altered in any way. So I
>wonder if this kind of move is that bad.

	1. g3 is not a bad move. Only that it does not put pressure on the opponent. I
think it does not fit Rebel's style.

>But I think your idea has merit, as
>long as the opening books are swapped. But if you do this make sure when you
>post your games that you mention this, and not forget to leave out the smallest
>detail or you will get picked on big time by your fellow members

	Unfortunately you are right. Some people are too suspicious, and do not seem to
trust experimental tests.

>
>regards
>
>Micheal



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.