Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 09:36:46 02/24/99
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On February 24, 1999 at 10:13:05, Dan Kiski wrote: >On February 24, 1999 at 09:05:12, blass uri wrote: > >> >>On February 23, 1999 at 11:55:42, blass uri wrote: >> >>> >>>On February 23, 1999 at 10:21:53, Dan Kiski wrote: >>> >>>>I read a number of posts on the subject of Rebel allegedly cooking some set >>>>tests a while back and wondered if Fritz had done something similar. >>>> >>>>When I play engine 5.15 v 5.32 tests using the Nunn openings I find 5.32 will >>>>win by Impressive margins 15 - 5, 15.5 - 4.5, 14.5 - 5.5. But when I play engine >>>>v engine normal matches they seem relatively even. >>> >>>It seems that they cooked Fritz5.32 to win the nunn test games. >>>This proves that the nunn test does not prove nothing about the strength of >>>chess engines because it is a known test. >>> >>>I suggest another test based on the positions after the 10 move of black in the >>>last category 18+ tournament. >>> >>>Uri >> >>There is a different explanation. >> >>Maybe Fritz5.32 is better at the opening stage of the game and it is the reason >>that Fritz5.32 is getting better results when both sides do not use the opening >>book in the nunn positions. >> >>If this is the case then I can understand the fact that Fritz5.32 is not better >>in practical games because usually both sides are out of book only near move 20 >>and Fritz5.32 is not better after move 20 >> >>I suggest to do a match of 40 games based on all the 20 positions after 1 ply: >>after 1.a3,1.a4,1.b3,1.b4,..... >> >>I am sure that Chessbase did not tune Fritz for this match so if Fritz5.32 wins >>convincingly then it will be a proof that Fritz5.32 is clearly better in the >>opening stage then Fritz5.16 >> >>Uri > >Interesting idea, I know I am not the only one to have noticed this I exchanged >games via e-mail with Mike Hurd from here about a month ago and his games of the >Nunn tests although using different computer than mine showed the same results >that being a big margin for 5.32 over 5.16. >Dan Kiski. as 5.32 is no better than 5.16 also not in opening, this is a clear case of cooking.
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