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Subject: FRC (Chess960) and Normal Chess are both SERIOUS

Author: Theo van der Storm

Date: 12:20:28 08/22/05

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On August 22, 2005 at 13:53:50, Terry McCracken wrote:

>On August 22, 2005 at 10:44:18, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>
>>On August 22, 2005 at 09:25:17, Andreas Schwartmann wrote:
>>
>>>On August 22, 2005 at 07:58:30, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>>
>>>>why did he thought he would win ?
>>>>
>>>>wasn't he warned from mainz ?
>>>
>>>That was just FRC, not serious chess.
>>>
>>>Andreas
>>?
>>where is your ":-))" ?
>>
>>FRC is 960x serious chess.
>
>What? Are you a messenger of Fischer? FRC is played for fun not in ernest. The
>only advantage/disadvantage is you can't build good books easily for 960
>starting position, hence theory and study of the openings is out the window!
>
>It's Fairy Chess and you can't tune your engine by studying such games in
>standard chess.
>
>Terry

Chess960 is not the same game as chess.
This is especially true in combination with the Fischer clock.
However, that doesn't make it "Fairy Chess".

In Mainz August 2005 Chess960 HAS BECOME a serious game
for both computers and humans. There are now plenty of grandmaster and IM who
take it seriously and all of a sudden, thanks to Richard Pijl, Stefan MK
and 17 other programmers (2-18), there is a substantial field of programs.

Apart from the speed at which it happened,
I cannot say I'm surprised about those programs.
It is troublesome for a chess programmer to find a good opening book author,
since there are so few of them and it's so time-consuming to prepare for good
opening play both on the program and the book side.
Thus throwing opening practice - with my science background I refuse to call it
theory - out of the window is very attractive to them.
They can focus on their real interest, i.e. programming.
Opening phase evaluation would be a good starter...
There is plenty of opportunity - no necessity! - for elegant programming,
because they won't get away with hard-coded constructs anymore.

I'm not suggesting to get rid of good old Chess just yet, though :-)

Theo van der Storm

PS:
written by Mark Vogelgesang am 05. August 2005 13:29:51:
Here is the final list of all programmers that will participate in the Chess960
Computer World Championship in Mainz, in no particular order.
1) The Baron / Pijl
2) Glaurung / Romstad
3) Deep Sjeng / Pascutto
4) Herrmann / Annuss
5) List / Reul
6) Xinix / Roon-Werten
7) Nexus / Dörr
8) Homer / Mehrmann
9) Spike / Böhm Schäfer
10) Ant960 / Vijlbrief, Secelle
11) Patzer / Pfister
12) Quark / Mayer
13) AICE / Milikas
14) Ayito / Benito
15) Ikarus / Kolss
16) Jonny / Zwanzger
17) parSOS / Huber
18) Pharaon / Zibi
19) Shredder / Meyer-Kahlen



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