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Subject: Re: Zappa's dominating score...

Author: Engin Üstün

Date: 13:57:00 08/22/05

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On August 22, 2005 at 16:20:32, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On August 22, 2005 at 15:51:22, Engin Üstün wrote:
>
>>On August 22, 2005 at 15:31:29, Thomas Mayer wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Engin,
>>>
>>>On August 22, 2005 at 15:18:43, Engin Üstün wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 22, 2005 at 11:57:33, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Is it the largest margin (by percentage of points) ever for a WCCC or WMCCC
>>>>>event?
>>>>
>>>>zappa was played on 2 cpu dual core, Fruit play only on 1 cpu, clearly is Fruit
>>>>the Campion for me.
>>>>
>>>>very interesting is a match on same hardware Zappa vs Fruit.
>>>
>>>so well, then I chose the machin Anthony did use... see ! Nothing is changed,
>>>because Fruit so far just can use the single... so is Anthony to blaim because
>>>he made his program MP ?
>>>
>>>Just a comparison for those which support the same hardware idea: now what to do
>>>if one of those programs does not support opening book ? Must now everyone
>>>disable opening books ? Or how about pondering, tablebases etc. ?
>>>
>>>Of course it will be interesting to see them fighting against each other with
>>>single machines, but this was a world championship, everyone should bring the
>>>best he can. The 2 x 2 *2.2 Ghz wouldn't have helped Fruit, in fact it would
>>>have been even a bit slower on it, because each single processor has only 2.2
>>>GHz.
>>>
>>>Anyway, Fruits performance was of course outstanding. Beaten several of those
>>>hardware monsters and end up as clear 2nd. But don't lower the achievements of
>>>Anthony, Zappa is without any doubt the deserved champ of that tournament.
>>>
>>>Greets, Thomas
>>
>>Hi Thomas,
>>you are right but, i mean only who have the money for very fast mashines is
>>clear better then other who can not spend so much for fast hardware?
>>
>>that is a question about a reach and poor programmers how engine is the best
>>one.
>>
>>clearly is better a tournament with all engines can MP ond same MP 4 core
>>mashines, with books, ponder and tablebases.
>>or all engines playing on same 1 cpu hardware with book, ponder and tablebases.
>>
>>compare hydra 16 core mashine vs fruit 1 core mashine is not fairly.
>>
>>that is also near if one engine have 4 GB hashtables and the other one have only
>>16 MB hash.
>
>For WCCC, the intent is cleary the strongest chess system that can be built at
>any cost (in the past, what was then supercomputers were entered).

hmmm... are you mean that on olympic games is doping allowed for high
performance ?




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