Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 15:10:06 08/22/05
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On August 22, 2005 at 16:57:00, Engin Üstün wrote: >On August 22, 2005 at 16:20:32, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On August 22, 2005 at 15:51:22, Engin Üstün wrote: >> >>>On August 22, 2005 at 15:31:29, Thomas Mayer wrote: >>> >>>>Hi Engin, >>>> >>>>On August 22, 2005 at 15:18:43, Engin Üstün wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 22, 2005 at 11:57:33, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Is it the largest margin (by percentage of points) ever for a WCCC or WMCCC >>>>>>event? >>>>> >>>>>zappa was played on 2 cpu dual core, Fruit play only on 1 cpu, clearly is Fruit >>>>>the Campion for me. >>>>> >>>>>very interesting is a match on same hardware Zappa vs Fruit. >>>> >>>>so well, then I chose the machin Anthony did use... see ! Nothing is changed, >>>>because Fruit so far just can use the single... so is Anthony to blaim because >>>>he made his program MP ? >>>> >>>>Just a comparison for those which support the same hardware idea: now what to do >>>>if one of those programs does not support opening book ? Must now everyone >>>>disable opening books ? Or how about pondering, tablebases etc. ? >>>> >>>>Of course it will be interesting to see them fighting against each other with >>>>single machines, but this was a world championship, everyone should bring the >>>>best he can. The 2 x 2 *2.2 Ghz wouldn't have helped Fruit, in fact it would >>>>have been even a bit slower on it, because each single processor has only 2.2 >>>>GHz. >>>> >>>>Anyway, Fruits performance was of course outstanding. Beaten several of those >>>>hardware monsters and end up as clear 2nd. But don't lower the achievements of >>>>Anthony, Zappa is without any doubt the deserved champ of that tournament. >>>> >>>>Greets, Thomas >>> >>>Hi Thomas, >>>you are right but, i mean only who have the money for very fast mashines is >>>clear better then other who can not spend so much for fast hardware? >>> >>>that is a question about a reach and poor programmers how engine is the best >>>one. >>> >>>clearly is better a tournament with all engines can MP ond same MP 4 core >>>mashines, with books, ponder and tablebases. >>>or all engines playing on same 1 cpu hardware with book, ponder and tablebases. >>> >>>compare hydra 16 core mashine vs fruit 1 core mashine is not fairly. >>> >>>that is also near if one engine have 4 GB hashtables and the other one have only >>>16 MB hash. >> >>For WCCC, the intent is cleary the strongest chess system that can be built at >>any cost (in the past, what was then supercomputers were entered). > >hmmm... are you mean that on olympic games is doping allowed for high >performance ? No, he means that the WCCC is an event where _anyone_ can compete. Not college atheletics. Not high-school only. But anyone. Just like the NHRA's "Top Fuel Dragsters". As many motors as you want, supercharged any way you want, on any fuel you want. This is the "unlimited event" of computer chess.
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