Author: Thomas Logan
Date: 16:31:10 08/22/05
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On August 22, 2005 at 19:03:35, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>On August 22, 2005 at 13:24:15, Thomas Logan wrote:
>
>>On August 22, 2005 at 08:18:06, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>
>>>On August 22, 2005 at 07:34:10, Thomas Logan wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 22, 2005 at 07:20:17, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The only thing you are testing here is the quality of the book, not the quality
>>>>>of the engines.
>>>>>
>>>>>But this is just a waste of time.
>>>>>The book is crap
>>>>>
>>>>>Michael
>>>>
>>>>What book is crap ?
>>>
>>>The opening book
>>>
>>>>Please explain your statement
>>>>
>>>>Tom
>>>
>>>I can´t look at all games now. I have noticed the game Toga came out of book in
>>>this position:
>>>
>>>[D]r1r3k1/pp3pp1/2n2b1p/q1PR4/8/4PN2/PPQ2PPP/1K3B1R w - - 0 15
>>>
>>>Two pawns down and not nearly enough compensation -> 1-0
>>>
>>>I also have noticed this game:
>>>
>>>[Event "THOMAS-KBZT8WLT, 40'/40+40'/40+40'"]
>>>[Site "THOMAS-KBZT8WLT"]
>>>[Date "2005.08.21"]
>>>[Round "1"]
>>>[White "Toga II 1.0"]
>>>[Black "Shredder 9"]
>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>[ECO "B80"]
>>>[Annotator "0.30;-1.12"]
>>>[PlyCount "129"]
>>>
>>>{W=16.1 ply; 1,067kN/s B=17.9 ply; 612kN/s} 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4.
>>>Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e6 7. f3 b5 8. Qd2 Nbd7 9. g4 Nb6 10. Qf2 Nfd7 11.
>>>O-O-O Bb7 12. Bd3 Rc8 13. Nce2 Qc7 14. Kb1 d5 15. Ng3 Nc4 16. Bxc4 bxc4 17. g5
>>>c3 18. b3 Bd6 19. exd5 Bxd5 20. Nde2 O-O 21. Bd4 Ne5 22. Bxc3 Bc5 23. Qf1 a5
>>>24. Ne4 a4 25. Qg2 axb3 26. cxb3 Bb4 27. Rc1 Qb8 28. Bd4 Ng6 29. Qf2 Qb7 30.
>>>N2g3 Qb5 31. Qe3 Ra8 32. Rc2 Rfd8 33. f4 Qb7 34. Rd1 Rd7 35. Ka1 Bf8 36. Rb1
>>>Nh4 37. Nc5 Bxc5 38. Bxc5 Rdd8 39. h3 Rdc8 40. Rc3 Nf3 41. Rbc1 Nh4 42. R1c2
>>>Rd8 43. Bb6 Rdb8 44. Ba7 Rd8 45. Bd4 Nf3 46. Bb6 Re8 47. Qc5 Ne1 48. Rc1 Ng2
>>>49. Nh5 Nh4 50. Qf2 Nf5 51. Rb1 Qa6 52. Bc5 Rec8 53. Qb2 Qb7 54. Rg1 {
>>>Both last book move} Ra6 {[%eval -112,17] [%emt 0:11:46]} 55. Ng3 {
>>>[%eval 30,15] [%emt 0:03:18]} Nxg3 {(Rca8) [%eval -90,17] [%emt 0:05:58]} 56.
>>>Rgxg3 {[%eval 46,14] [%emt 0:01:04]} Rd8 {(Qb5) [%eval -77,17] [%emt 0:03:42]}
>>>57. Rgd3 {(Rg1) [%eval 74,16] [%emt 0:03:07]} Qc7 {
>>>(Rda8) [%eval -62,17] [%emt 0:05:28]} 58. Qc1 {
>>>(Rd4) [%eval 82,16] [%emt 0:02:56]} Qa5 {(Rda8) [%eval -43,18] [%emt 0:07:13]}
>>>59. a4 {(Qc2) [%eval 115,15] [%emt 0:02:29]} Raa8 {
>>>(Re8) [%eval -25,18] [%emt 0:03:04]} 60. Qe3 {
>>>(Kb2) [%eval 118,16] [%emt 0:02:46]} Rdb8 {[%eval -4,17] [%emt 0:01:57]} 61. h4
>>>{(Bd6) [%eval 125,16] [%emt 0:02:36]} Rb5 {(Qa6) [%eval -13,16] [%emt 0:01:43]}
>>>62. Ba3 {(b4) [%eval 144,15] [%emt 0:01:52]} Re8 {
>>>(Rb7) [%eval 157,17] [%emt 0:09:15]} 63. Bb2 {
>>>(h5) [%eval 257,15] [%emt 0:09:11]} Bxb3 {(Qa8) [%eval 179,17] [%emt 0:05:49]}
>>>64. Rxb3 {[%eval 295,15] [%emt 0:00:58]} Rxb3 {
>>>(Qxa4+) [%eval 179,17] [%emt 0:02:32]} 65. Rxb3 {
>>>adjud. [%eval 296,16] [%emt 0:00:59]} 1-0
>>>
>>>54 book moves ??
>>>Probably there are some lines in this book where the engine comes out of book
>>>and is mated one move later :)
>>>
>>>Michael
>>
>>No not 54 move book game
>>
>>but the position of a forced ajournment game restarted at the previously risen
>>position
>>
>>Tom
>
>OK, I certainly couldn´t know you had restartet the game.
>Btw,I don´t think you were able to restore the clocks correctly after restart
>since Shredder thought whopping 11:46 minutes for the very next move with a time
>control 1 minute/move on average.
>
>Michael
No I guess you would not know
The problem is I cannot always allow the game to go to completion and have to
pause
The chessbase gui does not have a convenient pause and resume function which
would be ideal
So I tried the next best thing but the time control could have been better tuned
Tom
Idid not know it would appear the way it did
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