Author: gerold daniels
Date: 18:09:19 08/22/05
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On August 22, 2005 at 18:10:06, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On August 22, 2005 at 16:57:00, Engin Üstün wrote: > >>On August 22, 2005 at 16:20:32, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>On August 22, 2005 at 15:51:22, Engin Üstün wrote: >>> >>>>On August 22, 2005 at 15:31:29, Thomas Mayer wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hi Engin, >>>>> >>>>>On August 22, 2005 at 15:18:43, Engin Üstün wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On August 22, 2005 at 11:57:33, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Is it the largest margin (by percentage of points) ever for a WCCC or WMCCC >>>>>>>event? >>>>>> >>>>>>zappa was played on 2 cpu dual core, Fruit play only on 1 cpu, clearly is Fruit >>>>>>the Campion for me. >>>>>> >>>>>>very interesting is a match on same hardware Zappa vs Fruit. >>>>> >>>>>so well, then I chose the machin Anthony did use... see ! Nothing is changed, >>>>>because Fruit so far just can use the single... so is Anthony to blaim because >>>>>he made his program MP ? >>>>> >>>>>Just a comparison for those which support the same hardware idea: now what to do >>>>>if one of those programs does not support opening book ? Must now everyone >>>>>disable opening books ? Or how about pondering, tablebases etc. ? >>>>> >>>>>Of course it will be interesting to see them fighting against each other with >>>>>single machines, but this was a world championship, everyone should bring the >>>>>best he can. The 2 x 2 *2.2 Ghz wouldn't have helped Fruit, in fact it would >>>>>have been even a bit slower on it, because each single processor has only 2.2 >>>>>GHz. >>>>> >>>>>Anyway, Fruits performance was of course outstanding. Beaten several of those >>>>>hardware monsters and end up as clear 2nd. But don't lower the achievements of >>>>>Anthony, Zappa is without any doubt the deserved champ of that tournament. >>>>> >>>>>Greets, Thomas >>>> >>>>Hi Thomas, >>>>you are right but, i mean only who have the money for very fast mashines is >>>>clear better then other who can not spend so much for fast hardware? >>>> >>>>that is a question about a reach and poor programmers how engine is the best >>>>one. >>>> >>>>clearly is better a tournament with all engines can MP ond same MP 4 core >>>>mashines, with books, ponder and tablebases. >>>>or all engines playing on same 1 cpu hardware with book, ponder and tablebases. >>>> >>>>compare hydra 16 core mashine vs fruit 1 core mashine is not fairly. >>>> >>>>that is also near if one engine have 4 GB hashtables and the other one have only >>>>16 MB hash. >>> >>>For WCCC, the intent is cleary the strongest chess system that can be built at >>>any cost (in the past, what was then supercomputers were entered). >> >>hmmm... are you mean that on olympic games is doping allowed for high >>performance ? > >No, he means that the WCCC is an event where _anyone_ can compete. Not college >atheletics. Not high-school only. But anyone. Just like the NHRA's "Top Fuel >Dragsters". As many motors as you want, supercharged any way you want, on any >fuel you want. > >This is the "unlimited event" of computer chess. I might add. Clearly the strongest program will win. :)
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