Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 18:20:50 08/22/05
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On August 22, 2005 at 21:09:19, gerold daniels wrote: >On August 22, 2005 at 18:10:06, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On August 22, 2005 at 16:57:00, Engin Üstün wrote: >> >>>On August 22, 2005 at 16:20:32, Dann Corbit wrote: >>> >>>>On August 22, 2005 at 15:51:22, Engin Üstün wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 22, 2005 at 15:31:29, Thomas Mayer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Hi Engin, >>>>>> >>>>>>On August 22, 2005 at 15:18:43, Engin Üstün wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On August 22, 2005 at 11:57:33, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Is it the largest margin (by percentage of points) ever for a WCCC or WMCCC >>>>>>>>event? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>zappa was played on 2 cpu dual core, Fruit play only on 1 cpu, clearly is Fruit >>>>>>>the Campion for me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>very interesting is a match on same hardware Zappa vs Fruit. >>>>>> >>>>>>so well, then I chose the machin Anthony did use... see ! Nothing is changed, >>>>>>because Fruit so far just can use the single... so is Anthony to blaim because >>>>>>he made his program MP ? >>>>>> >>>>>>Just a comparison for those which support the same hardware idea: now what to do >>>>>>if one of those programs does not support opening book ? Must now everyone >>>>>>disable opening books ? Or how about pondering, tablebases etc. ? >>>>>> >>>>>>Of course it will be interesting to see them fighting against each other with >>>>>>single machines, but this was a world championship, everyone should bring the >>>>>>best he can. The 2 x 2 *2.2 Ghz wouldn't have helped Fruit, in fact it would >>>>>>have been even a bit slower on it, because each single processor has only 2.2 >>>>>>GHz. >>>>>> >>>>>>Anyway, Fruits performance was of course outstanding. Beaten several of those >>>>>>hardware monsters and end up as clear 2nd. But don't lower the achievements of >>>>>>Anthony, Zappa is without any doubt the deserved champ of that tournament. >>>>>> >>>>>>Greets, Thomas >>>>> >>>>>Hi Thomas, >>>>>you are right but, i mean only who have the money for very fast mashines is >>>>>clear better then other who can not spend so much for fast hardware? >>>>> >>>>>that is a question about a reach and poor programmers how engine is the best >>>>>one. >>>>> >>>>>clearly is better a tournament with all engines can MP ond same MP 4 core >>>>>mashines, with books, ponder and tablebases. >>>>>or all engines playing on same 1 cpu hardware with book, ponder and tablebases. >>>>> >>>>>compare hydra 16 core mashine vs fruit 1 core mashine is not fairly. >>>>> >>>>>that is also near if one engine have 4 GB hashtables and the other one have only >>>>>16 MB hash. >>>> >>>>For WCCC, the intent is cleary the strongest chess system that can be built at >>>>any cost (in the past, what was then supercomputers were entered). >>> >>>hmmm... are you mean that on olympic games is doping allowed for high >>>performance ? >> >>No, he means that the WCCC is an event where _anyone_ can compete. Not college >>atheletics. Not high-school only. But anyone. Just like the NHRA's "Top Fuel >>Dragsters". As many motors as you want, supercharged any way you want, on any >>fuel you want. >> >>This is the "unlimited event" of computer chess. > >I might add. Clearly the strongest program will win. :) No, the "thing" that plays the best chess for the 11 rounds of this event... :)
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