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Subject: Re: Clones and moral behavior

Author: Ryan B.

Date: 00:51:13 08/23/05

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On August 23, 2005 at 00:44:33, Cesar Contreras wrote:

>"Clone" it's just a moral word. It seams to be intended to distinct "original"
>from "not original" chess engines. Useless today in my opinion. Maybe a diferent
>word can serve that good purpose for some more time.
>
>The fact it's that this diference don't exist anymore, most programs are pretty
>unoriginal altought some have more original touches than others.
>
>So originality came in the form of some "touches of originality".

I dont think people have a problem with copying ideas just source code.  If I am
wrong I guess I need to scap the whole absearch thing...

>
>I see some similarities with "moralily" or "good behavior":
>
>* Nobody really know what does "clone" means

a program that has source code from another program

>* Every chess programmer is afraid being named a "cloner"

no fear here

>* If you defend a cloner be ready to be named a "cloner"

maybe, but how the person feals about him or herself is what really matters.

>* If you discover a cloner, be ready to be named "X the just"

?

>* Every programmer it's tempted to "clone"

I dissagree strongly.  How could it be more fun to rip someone off than program
something yourself?

>* Everybody it's ready to punish the "clonner"

And they should.

>* Every new strong engine on town must "hide something"

Thank the cloners.

>* "Clone" meaned one thing 2 years ago, now means something diferent, it's like
>a fashion thing.
>* Things that some years ago meaned "to clone", now are bean threated with more
>open mind.
>* Everybody agree clonning it's bad (except some freaks out there).
>

Always ment the same thing to me.

>
>My conclusion.
>    * Typical nonsense human behavior.
>    * Legality must be well defined, it's just wrong to punish someone for
>something that undefinied.
>

wow

>PD. I hope this is not copyrigthed.

The few people out there that think cloning is ok is why is have not gone open
sorce with my chess project.  My ideas will become public and nothing will be
hidden when the time is right though.



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