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Subject: Re: WCCC9 and WMCCC Paderborn June 1999

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 15:04:34 02/24/99

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On February 24, 1999 at 17:08:41, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On February 24, 1999 at 16:58:15, Don Beal wrote:
>
>>On February 24, 1999 at 12:44:41, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>My program runs at a 4 processor Xeon from Bob, but it is running
>>>at a PC-system, and it also available at 1 processor.
>>>
>>>Does that count too?
>>
>>You have to choose whether to enter the 4-processor version, or the
>>1-processor version.  If you enter the 4-processor version it won't
>>be eligible for the current microcomputer title.
>>
>>This raises an interesting question, though. Would the participants
>>welcome another title category for multi-processors of the Xeon type?
>>They look like becoming widespread machines.  The disadvantage of
>>too many titles is that it creates confusion and might be thought to
>>devalue the existing title.  I'd be interested to hear the opinions
>>of the participants.
>Why is there a 1 CPU limit for microcomputers?  This is an artificial
>distinction, since they are clearly being sold in bulk right now.  I suggest,
>instead, to have a limit on the retail cost of the machine.  If the machine can
>be bought for $10,000 from the local computer outlet, then it is a
>microcomputer.  Have an official date that the price (whatever you might choose)
>must be under a certain level.

Right. that would be great and mean that a big bunch of the
professionals running at the newest (experimental) PC fall outside this range,
which is also not the meaning of this event.

>Another interesting prize-winning category might be ELO per dollar.  This would
>probably be very interesting to the end-consumer.

That can never be won by the commercials, as crafty is free available, if you
know how to install it from the non-existing CDrom of it... :)

Better is prizewinning category for elo per node. I've already won that :)
At a PII-450 under NT i do 20k nodes a second. Under linux that's 7% less,
so 16500, and at a Xeon 400Mhz, another 7% less, so around 15k nodes a second
a processor. Further i lose something because of parallellism (currently
it isn't even bugfree!).

So to put it in short, i'll have a shot at the overall worldtitle...
...just a few rounds of luck and who knows...

I think we should abandon some world titles. It confuses people.
Just one world title, and allow everyone to join, and if you can't
fight the parallel programs, or dislike to fight them, well send them
to SSDF, they still have some old 200MMX machines there and a lot of
volunteers to get a copy of your program.

Greetings,
Vincent





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