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Subject: Re: Dream Chess computer ?

Author: Thomas Logan

Date: 05:15:00 08/24/05

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On August 23, 2005 at 20:23:04, David Mitchell wrote:

>On August 23, 2005 at 07:30:57, Thomas Logan wrote:
>
>>On August 23, 2005 at 01:27:22, David Mitchell wrote:
>>
>>>On August 22, 2005 at 21:17:51, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 22, 2005 at 18:52:01, Thomas Logan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Dual 2.2 opterons 275 (dual core)
>>>>>
>>>>>Tyan thunder dual mb
>>>>>
>>>>>2 200mb western digital hardrives
>>>>>
>>>>>4 gig reg ecc 400/xxx/266 memory
>>>>>
>>>>>video card, speakers , dvd, cd-rw, floppy, keyboard and mouse
>>>>>
>>>>>window xp pro ? Does xp support 4 processors
>>>>>
>>>>>cost ~5,000
>>>>>
>>>>>Can one do better for the price ?
>>>>>
>>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Take a look at this one:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.unitedmicro.com/sysw.cgi?21415110
>>>
>>>Although the M/B seems well-integrated, I have never heard of them. If you later
>>>need help with anything do they have a website like MSI to download a newer
>>>BIOS, get help, etc.?
>>>
>>>80GB hd, is just not enough, these days. My latest security "patch" from MS
>>>alone was 32Megs.! Tablebases are getting HUGE, I wouldn't even think about
>>>anything less than 100GB, for a new system.
>>>
>>>512MB for main memory, is half of what you'll need, minimum, imo.
>>>
>>>XP home version will NOT support 64bit Windows, ever (apparently). It has to be
>>>the Professional version, and it has to be the version they load on from the
>>>store (according to what I've read on the net). Be sure to check and get
>>>something IN WRITING, (not just an "oh sure, yes", from a clerk who knows
>>>nothing). Check with Eugene.
>>>
>>>And what are the specifics regarding fan size, noise level, and how they're
>>>mounted. Not all cases are created equal and with a powerful system, maybe
>>>running day and night on tournaments, or whatever, it has to be able to stay
>>>cool, and not drive you nuts.
>>>
>>>Check it ALL out before you buy, or you're toast, imo.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>
>>Hi Dave
>>
>>Does xp pro support 4 processors or is windows server or some other operating
>>system ?
>>
>>What do you think of my dream quad opteron
>>
>>Tom
>
>Good to hear that XP Pro 64 edition will support two CPU's, regardless of the
>number of processors in each CPU. I'd sure avoid the "home" edition of XP.
>
>Have you compared the price tag of X64 and opteron's running at the same speed?

System only setup - no monitor

The 2 dual core opterons 275 2.2 gig runs about 5,000

The single x2 4800 2.4 gig about half that.

If there was such a thing as a dual x2's system

The prices would be more equal and I suspect the x2 4800 system faster

I am yet undecided between the single x2 4800 and the dual 275's

I dont know how well the quad opteron scales and the x2 4800 I believe is faster
than a single dual core opteron





>
>I've heard the difference is substantial, running into the hundreds of dollars.
>If you're getting this for a server, that could make good sense. Otherwise, I'd
>re-think the bucks. Maybe use it for a back-up drive, or a separate EGTB drive.
>That would cut out a LOT of wear and tear on the ol' HD if you run a lot of
>chess programs or heaven forbid, tournaments.
>
>So what is this beastie going to be used for?

Chess eng-eng Matches and playchess server as well as other every day stuff

Tom



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