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Subject: Re: Fruit Reykjavic

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 09:20:57 08/24/05

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On August 24, 2005 at 11:07:17, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On August 24, 2005 at 04:10:36, Fabien Letouzey wrote:
>
>>On August 23, 2005 at 15:23:49, Ulf Flörsheimer wrote:
>>
>>>Does anybody know if, when and how the WCCC version of Fruit will be
>>>distributed?
>>>
>>>Ulf
>>
>>I don't know myself.
>>
>>Professionals who came to WCCC said that Fruit is not a threat for their
>>sellings.  Others are welcomed to let me know of their opinion by email
>>(fabien_letouzey@hotmail.com).  However some experts expect more and more Fruit
>>clones in future tournaments (including on-the-board ones), especially after the
>>performance in WCCC.
>>
>>There is also the insufficiency (IMO) of the GPL in the chess case that I have
>>to ponder on (pun intended).
>>
>>For these reasons, I have decided so far NOT to release my source code anymore.
>>Continuing to do so could harm the community beyond repair, and at the same time
>>I believe that public Fruit 2.1 is strong enough to participate in a paradigm
>>revolution (skeptical programs or whatever).
>>
>>Thanks for listening,
>>
>>Fabien.
>
>
>I think this is a decision you have to make by _yourself_.  I would not think
>about commercial interests, because I doubt you will find that they think about
>you when they are developing and selling their code.
>
>I chose to release my source because I thought it was reasonable for everyone to
>have access to a reasonably-state-of-the-art program to look at.  Yes, it has
>caused some problems (clones for one).  But then again, I can recall a clone
>prior to anyone releasing source.  Someone showed up at a WMCCC years ago with a
>"clone" of chess genius, hacked with a debugger to change some of the
>identifying output, but genius nonetheless...
>
>So the clone problem will always be around.  If not your program, then mine, or
>any of the other open-source programs.

Yes but the risk that a clone may win important tournaments is bigger when the
program becomes stronger.

I think that more people may want to clone program that they believe that it can
win WCCC and not to clone a program that they expect to finish at the middle of
the table and Crafty in the last years is not a program that people expect to
win WCCC.

Uri



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