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Subject: Re: Clones and moral behavior

Author: Peter Kappler

Date: 14:21:51 08/24/05

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On August 24, 2005 at 16:55:04, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>On August 24, 2005 at 15:30:09, Tord Romstad wrote:
>
>>On August 24, 2005 at 12:34:41, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>
>>>You ask if it's already in direction of cloning if you copy Alpha-Beta. I say
>>>yes. But that alone wouldn't allow the verdict clone but it's a beginning. If
>>>then the next 14 features are simply added without own creativity then it's
>>>cloning.
>>
>>Well, let me see ...
>>
>>I use:
>>
>>1. Null move pruning
>>2. Zobrist hashing
>>3. Static exchange evaluation
>>4. Pawn hash table
>>5. Futility pruning
>>6. Killer moves
>>7. History heuristic
>>8. PVS
>>9. Mailbox move generation
>>10. Check extensions
>>11. Single reply extensions
>>12. KPK bitbase
>>13. Piece square tables
>>14. Iterative deepening
>>
>>I could easily make the list longer, but I have already reached the magic
>>number of 14.  I have a clone.
>>
>>Tord
>
>
>I dont know why you become so aggressive. I saw a photograph from you in Mainz
>and I thought, why the guy is always so aggressive towards me since 1997, he
>looks so peaceful. Something is wrong here. 14 certainly wasn't meaningful, it
>was thought to be just a high number. But ok, you answered at least. - Now my
>question: what afterall did you invent yourself in computerchess programming?

I don't see any aggression or hatred in his response.

Tord has posted many original ideas in this forum and others.  Just search the
CCC archives and you will find plenty of examples.


>And second question: why - after all these copies - is your program not among
>the winning ones at tournaments? Please answer without the usual hatred please.
>I thank you in advance.

He's well on his way.  3 ELO behind Chess Tiger 15 in this rating list.
http://www.cegt.de/rangliste/cegtall.html

But you probably consider every program on this list a clone, so I imagine you
will not be impressed.

-Peter




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