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Subject: Re: Chessbase Cafe talks about Zappa, Fruit and UCI

Author: George Speight

Date: 16:17:01 08/25/05

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On August 24, 2005 at 16:01:04, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On August 24, 2005 at 15:21:55, Christos Gitsis wrote:
>
>>On August 24, 2005 at 12:38:28, James Constance wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.chesscafe.com/mig/mig.htm
>>>
>>>"Some people asked me why they should spend forty or fifty bucks for a chess
>>>program when they can download the top world championship programs free..."
>>
>>"...The marvelous Linux operating system, at least various versions of it, is
>>free and offers many free and open source programs that cover most of what you
>>do with your Windows machine. But as the saying goes, “Linux is free only
>>if your time is worth nothing.” Windows is far easier to use and has
>>countless features we have come to depend on, no matter how much we may resent
>>making Bill Gates’ mountain of gold a tiny bit higher.
>>
>>So it goes with chess software..."
>>
>>There is some truth in that. I played in an open tournament last week and spent
>>some time talking to some fellow chessplayers about free software, but most of
>>them initially would not believe that it could be as good as commercial
>>programs.
>>
>>In the end they were convinced, but I understood that most people have not yet
>>heard that there are strong engines outside ChessBase and I realized that
>>we, computer chess fans, are a small minority. In particular, I got the
>>impression that most, if not all, titled players (IMs, GMs) will never give up
>>their ChessBase software, with which they are familiar. Unless Fritz drops to
>>being _much_ weaker that other engines, ChessBase need not worry very much.
>
>There are about 500 GMs, and so that part of the market is very much a tiny
>niche.  I don't think that the software companies target GMs except maybe for
>endorsements or something like that.
>
>I guess what matters most is shelf space and advertizing (assuming that the
>product doesn't stink).
>
>After shelf space and advertizing will come features and ease of use.
>
>Probably, most good pro software packages have one some significant tournament
>somewhere like WCCC, WMCCC, Paderborn, French Championship, or whatever.  So
>they can always put that on their box and impress people.  Or maybe they have
>topped the SSDF at some point or won the CCT or something.  So strength is good,
>but you don't have to be the strongest to impress most people, I imagine.
>
>Probably any very strong chess engine could play in a few tournaments against
>GMs on fast hardware and win one of them, and then put that on the box.
>
>At any rate, chess engine strength is a small part of the overall package.
>
>To a few geeks like the CCC crowd, it might be important.  To the average chess
>software buyer -- they would not know if a win at Paderborn was better than or
>worse than WMCCC or topping the SSDF list or whatever.
Hi, Dann.  Right on the mark!  Nothing left to be said.  Regards, George



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