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Subject: Re: who's winning?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 01:33:28 08/26/05

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On August 25, 2005 at 23:48:55, Peter Kappler wrote:

>On August 25, 2005 at 21:56:36, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>On August 25, 2005 at 18:32:23, Peter Kappler wrote:
>>
>>>On August 25, 2005 at 18:12:41, Will Singleton wrote:
>>>
>>>>[d]rnb1r1k1/1p1p1pPp/8/pP2p3/2P5/2P5/2Q1NPPP/q1B1KB1R b K -
>>>>
>>>>White's a GM, black's a computer.  I would guess a GM might like white, not
>>>>sure.  Most comps like black due to material, at least initially.
>>>
>>>
>>>I like White.  Huge compensation for the tiny material deficit.
>>>
>>>-Peter
>>
>>And Grok? :)
>
>Up till about depth 11 it likes Black, then equal at depth 12, and slightly
>favoring White at depth 13.
>
>Not an easy position for computers.  Most of the amateurs will probably prune
>away the good stuff.  :)
>
>-Peter

I think that all serious amateurs like white if you only gives them enough time

New game,
rnb1r1k1/1p1p1pPp/8/pP2p3/2P5/2P5/2Q1NPPP/q1B1KB1R b K - 0 1

Analysis by Fruit 2.1:

1...Kxg7
  µ  (-0.86)   Depth: 1/1   00:00:00
1...Kxg7 2.Qd3 Kh8 3.Qd6
  µ  (-0.89)   Depth: 5/14   00:00:00
1...Kxg7 2.Qd3 Kh8 3.Qd6
  µ  (-0.89)   Depth: 5/14   00:00:00
1...Kxg7 2.Qd3 Kh8 3.Qd6
  µ  (-0.89)   Depth: 5/14   00:00:00
1...Kxg7 2.Qd3 Kh8 3.Qd6
  µ  (-0.89)   Depth: 5/14   00:00:00
1...Kxg7 2.Qd3 Kh8 3.Qd6
  µ  (-0.89)   Depth: 5/14   00:00:00
1...Kxg7 2.Ng3 d6 3.Bd3 h6 4.Nf5+ Bxf5 5.Bxf5
  µ  (-1.03)   Depth: 5/14   00:00:00
1...Kxg7 2.Ng3 d6 3.Bd3 Be6 4.0-0
  µ  (-0.73)   Depth: 6/15   00:00:00  18kN
1...Kxg7 2.Ng3 d6 3.Bd3 Be6 4.0-0 Nd7 5.Bxh7 Bxc4
  ³  (-0.55)   Depth: 7/18   00:00:00  51kN
1...Kxg7 2.Ng3 d6 3.Bd3 e4 4.Bxe4 f5 5.Nh5+ Kh8
  ³  (-0.39)   Depth: 8/21   00:00:00  117kN
1...Kxg7 2.Ng3 d6 3.Be2 Kh8 4.0-0 Nd7 5.Bh6 Qa3
  ³  (-0.43)   Depth: 9/26   00:00:00  275kN
1...Kxg7 2.Ng3 Kg8 3.Bd3 e4 4.Be2 d6 5.0-0 f5 6.Be3
  =  (-0.17)   Depth: 10/30   00:00:01  755kN
1...Kxg7 2.Ng3 Kg8 3.Be2 d5 4.cxd5 Rd8 5.c4 Nd7 6.0-0 Nc5
  =  (0.22)   Depth: 11/33   00:00:02  1857kN
1...Kxg7 2.Kd2 d6 3.Bb2 Qa2 4.Nc1 Bf5 5.Nxa2 Bxc2 6.Kxc2 Nd7 7.Bd3 a4
  ±  (0.77)   Depth: 12/34   00:00:06  4576kN
1...a4 2.Ng3 d6 3.Bd3 e4 4.Be2 Nd7 5.0-0 Nc5 6.Bg5 Qa3 7.Rd1
  ²  (0.54)   Depth: 12/35   00:00:08  5817kN
1...d5 2.cxd5 Nd7 3.Ng3 Nc5 4.Be2 Kxg7 5.0-0 Qa4 6.Nh5+ Kh8 7.Qxa4 Nxa4 8.Bd2
  ²  (0.50)   Depth: 12/35   00:00:11  8369kN
1...d5 2.cxd5 Nd7 3.Ng3 Nc5 4.Be2 Kxg7 5.c4 Nb3 6.0-0 Nxc1 7.Rxc1 Qd4 8.Ne4
  ²  (0.40)   Depth: 13/35   00:00:15  11458kN
1...d5 2.cxd5 Nd7 3.Ng3 Nc5 4.Bc4 Kxg7 5.0-0 Qa4 6.Nh5+ Kh8 7.Qxa4 Nxa4 8.Nf6
Rd8 9.Re1
  ²  (0.66)   Depth: 14/38   00:00:25  18900kN
1...Re6 2.Ng3 d6 3.Bd3 e4 4.Be2 Nd7 5.0-0 Nc5 6.Bf4 Qa4 7.Qd2 Kxg7 8.Bxd6
  ²  (0.59)   Depth: 14/42   00:00:37  26564kN
1...Re6 2.Ng3 d6 3.Bd3 e4 4.Be2 Nd7 5.0-0 Nc5 6.Bf4 Qa4 7.Qd2 Nb3 8.Qd5 Qa2
  ²  (0.58)   Depth: 15/45   00:00:52  38867kN
1...Re6 2.Ng3 h5 3.Nxh5 d6 4.Bd3 e4 5.Be2 Nd7 6.0-0 Nc5 7.Nf6+ Rxf6 8.Bg5 Qxf1+
9.Kxf1 Rg6 10.Be3 Kxg7 11.Bxc5 dxc5 12.Qxe4
  +-  (2.23)   Depth: 16/53   00:03:19  155454kN
1...d5 2.cxd5 Nd7 3.Ng3 Nb6 4.c4 Bd7 5.Nh5 Bf5 6.Qb2 Qxb2 7.Bxb2 Nd7 8.Be2 a4
9.Ba3 Rac8
  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 16/53   00:04:08  192364kN

(,  26.08.2005)

Movei is worse and need depth 14 to see that white is better

New game,
rnb1r1k1/1p1p1pPp/8/pP2p3/2P5/2P5/2Q1NPPP/q1B1KB1R b K - 0 1

Analysis by movei00_8_317:

1...e4
  µ  (-0.93)   Depth: 1   00:00:01
1...e4 2.Qd1
  µ  (-0.75)   Depth: 2   00:00:01
1...e4 2.Qd1
  µ  (-0.75)   Depth: 2   00:00:01
1...e4
  µ  (-1.05)   Depth: 3   00:00:01
1...e4 2.Qd2 Qa4
  µ  (-1.06)   Depth: 3   00:00:01
1...e4 2.Qd2 Qa4
  µ  (-1.06)   Depth: 3   00:00:01
1...e4
  µ  (-0.76)   Depth: 4   00:00:01
1...e4 2.Qd2 e3 3.Qd4
  ³  (-0.56)   Depth: 4   00:00:01
1...Kxg7
  ³  (-0.57)   Depth: 4   00:00:01
1...Kxg7 2.Qf5 d6 3.Qg5+ Kf8 4.Qh6+ Kg8 5.Qxd6
  µ  (-0.84)   Depth: 4   00:00:01
1...d6
  µ  (-0.85)   Depth: 4   00:00:01
1...d6 2.Qd2 Be6 3.Qd3 Kxg7 4.Qxd6 Bxc4
  µ  (-0.87)   Depth: 4   00:00:01
1...d6 2.Qd2 Be6 3.Qd3 Kxg7 4.Qxd6 Bxc4
  µ  (-0.87)   Depth: 4   00:00:01
1...d6 2.Qd2 Be6 3.Qd3 Rc8
  µ  (-0.99)   Depth: 5   00:00:01
1...d6 2.Qd2 Be6 3.Qd3 Rc8
  µ  (-0.99)   Depth: 5   00:00:01
1...d6 2.Qd3 Rd8 3.Qe4 Kxg7 4.b6
  µ  (-0.75)   Depth: 6   00:00:02  21kN
1...d6 2.Qd3 Rd8 3.Qe4 Kxg7 4.b6
  µ  (-0.75)   Depth: 6   00:00:02  47kN
1...d6
  µ  (-1.05)   Depth: 7   00:00:02  84kN
1...d6 2.Ng3 Kxg7 3.Bd3 Kh8 4.Bxh7 Be6
  µ  (-1.08)   Depth: 7   00:00:02  117kN
1...d6 2.Ng3 Kxg7 3.Bd3 Kh8 4.Bxh7 Be6
  µ  (-1.08)   Depth: 7   00:00:02  123kN
1...d6
  µ  (-0.78)   Depth: 8   00:00:02  138kN
1...d6 2.Ng3 Kxg7 3.Be2 Rg8 4.0-0 Kh8 5.Bh6
  ³  (-0.60)   Depth: 8   00:00:02  177kN
1...Kxg7
  ³  (-0.61)   Depth: 8   00:00:02  197kN
1...Kxg7
  µ  (-0.90)   Depth: 8   00:00:02  237kN
1...Kxg7 2.Qf5 f6 3.g4 d6 4.Qh5 Bd7 5.Bg2
  µ  (-0.92)   Depth: 8   00:00:02  291kN
1...Kxg7 2.Qf5 f6 3.g4 d6 4.Qh5 Bd7 5.Bg2
  µ  (-0.92)   Depth: 8   00:00:02  338kN
1...Kxg7 2.Ng3 d6 3.Be2 Rg8 4.0-0 Kh8 5.Bh6 Qa3
  µ  (-0.72)   Depth: 9   00:00:02  478kN
1...Kxg7 2.Ng3 d6 3.Be2 Rg8 4.0-0 Kh8 5.Bh6 Qa3
  µ  (-0.72)   Depth: 9   00:00:03  848kN
1...Kxg7
  ³  (-0.42)   Depth: 10   00:00:04  1105kN
1...Kxg7 2.Ng3 d6 3.Bd3 Kh8 4.Bxh7 e4 5.Bf5 e3 6.Bxc8 Rxc8 7.fxe3 Rxc4
  ³  (-0.63)   Depth: 10   00:00:05  1542kN
1...Kxg7 2.Ng3 d6 3.Bd3 Kh8 4.Bxh7 e4 5.Bf5 e3 6.Bxc8 Rxc8 7.fxe3 Rxc4
  ³  (-0.63)   Depth: 10   00:00:07  2219kN
1...Kxg7
  ³  (-0.33)   Depth: 11   00:00:07  2522kN
1...Kxg7 2.Ng3 Kh8 3.Be2 d5 4.0-0 d4 5.Bb2 d3 6.Bxd3 Qa2
  =  (0.02)   Depth: 11   00:00:09  3485kN
1...Re6
  =  (0.01)   Depth: 11   00:00:10  3627kN
1...Kxg7 2.Ng3 Kh8 3.Be2 d5 4.0-0 d4 5.Bb2 d3 6.Bxd3 Qa2
  =  (0.02)   Depth: 11   00:00:11  4190kN
1...d5
  =  (0.01)   Depth: 11   00:00:14  5348kN
1...d5 2.cxd5 Bd7 3.Ng3 Rc8 4.Nh5 Bf5 5.Qb2 Qxb2 6.Bxb2 Nd7
  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 11   00:00:15  5896kN
1...a4
  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 11   00:00:18  7130kN
1...d5 2.cxd5 Bd7 3.Ng3 Rc8 4.Nh5 Bf5 5.Qb2 Qxb2 6.Bxb2 Nd7
  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 11   00:00:19  7336kN
1...d5 2.cxd5 Bd7 3.Ng3 Rc8 4.Nh5 Bf5 5.Qb2 Qxb2 6.Bxb2 Nd7
  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 11   00:00:19  7336kN
1...d5 2.cxd5 Bd7 3.Ng3 Rc8 4.Qb2 Qxb2 5.Bxb2 Kxg7 6.c4 f6 7.Bd3 a4 8.Nh5+ Kf7
  =  (0.05)   Depth: 12   00:00:22  8765kN
1...Kxg7
  =  (0.04)   Depth: 12   00:00:23  8838kN
1...Kxg7
  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 12   00:00:23  9110kN
1...d5 2.cxd5 Bd7 3.Ng3 Rc8 4.Qb2 Qxb2 5.Bxb2 Kxg7 6.c4 f6 7.Bd3 a4 8.Nh5+ Kf7
  =  (0.05)   Depth: 12   00:00:25  9894kN
1...Re6
  =  (0.04)   Depth: 12   00:00:27  10817kN
1...d5 2.cxd5 Bd7 3.Ng3 Rc8 4.Qb2 Qxb2 5.Bxb2 Kxg7 6.c4 f6 7.Bd3 a4 8.Nh5+ Kf7
  =  (0.05)   Depth: 12   00:00:28  11220kN
1...a4
  =  (0.04)   Depth: 12   00:00:38  15366kN
1...a4
  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 12   00:00:41  16684kN
1...a4 2.Ng3 a3 3.Bd3 e4 4.Bxe4 f5 5.0-0 fxe4 6.Nxe4 Re6 7.Ng5
  ³  (-0.57)   Depth: 12   00:00:46  18675kN
1...a4 2.Ng3 a3 3.Bd3 e4 4.Bxe4 f5 5.0-0 fxe4 6.Nxe4 Re6 7.Ng5
  ³  (-0.57)   Depth: 12   00:00:46  18675kN
1...a4
  ³  (-0.27)   Depth: 13   00:00:47  19170kN
1...a4 2.Ng3 a3 3.Bd3 e4 4.Nxe4 d5 5.cxd5 f5 6.0-0 fxe4 7.Bxe4 Kxg7
  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 13   00:00:53  21628kN
1...a4 2.Ng3 a3 3.Bd3 e4 4.Nxe4 d5 5.cxd5 f5 6.0-0 fxe4 7.Bxe4 Kxg7
  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 13   00:01:08  28190kN
1...a4
  =  (0.06)   Depth: 14   00:01:14  30635kN
1...a4
  ±  (0.76)   Depth: 14   00:01:34  38537kN
1...a4 2.Ng3 a3 3.Bd3 e4 4.Nxe4 d5 5.cxd5 f5 6.0-0 fxe4 7.Bxe4 Rxe4 8.Qxe4 Qxc3
  ²  (0.55)   Depth: 14   00:01:48  44479kN
1...Kxg7
  ²  (0.54)   Depth: 14   00:01:48  44793kN
1...a4 2.Ng3 a3 3.Bd3 e4 4.Nxe4 d5 5.cxd5 f5 6.0-0 fxe4 7.Bxe4 Rxe4 8.Qxe4 Qxc3
  ²  (0.55)   Depth: 14   00:02:34  63884kN
1...d5
  ²  (0.54)   Depth: 14   00:02:40  66507kN
1...d5
  =  (0.25)   Depth: 14   00:02:50  70916kN
1...d5 2.cxd5 Nd7 3.Ng3 Nc5 4.Be2 Kxg7 5.0-0 Qa4 6.Qb1 Qb3 7.Qxb3 Nxb3 8.Bg5
  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 14   00:03:26  85309kN
1...d5 2.cxd5 Nd7 3.Ng3 Nc5 4.Be2 Kxg7 5.0-0 Qa4 6.Qb1 Qb3 7.Qxb3 Nxb3 8.Bg5
  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 14   00:05:00  126592kN
1...d5 2.cxd5 Bd7 3.Ng3 Rc8 4.c4 Bxb5 5.Nf5 Rc5 6.Nd6 Ba4 7.Qb2 Qxb2 8.Bxb2 Nd7
9.Nxb7
  ²  (0.43)   Depth: 15   00:05:43  145540kN

(,  26.08.2005)







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