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Subject: Re: Fritz 9 engine

Author: Shaley

Date: 02:01:23 08/26/05

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On August 26, 2005 at 04:55:55, Joachim Rang wrote:

>On August 26, 2005 at 04:52:17, Shaley wrote:
>
>>On August 26, 2005 at 04:41:22, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On August 26, 2005 at 04:22:01, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>
>>>>From CSS Online:
>>>>
>>>>"Neue wissensbasierte und extrem spielstarke Schach-Engine: Fritz9". Hmm does
>>>>this mean: loses to Fruit, but it's strong against humans?!
>>>>
>>>>Jouni
>>>
>>>The secret is that humans are not good chess players so everything seems strong
>>>against them.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>Well, Uri, I can only half-agree with you here. Right, humans still cannot take
>>quick and right decisions in OTB chess, but in reality machines have little
>>chance against strong humans in correspondence chess, if they are not backed by
>>really skilful advancers. In reality it's machines that play bad chess against
>>top advancers like ICCF world ex-champions Michael Umansky or Grigory Sanakoev,
>>to name a few.
>>All the best,
>>Alexander
>
>
>they don't play against Umansy or Sanakoev they play against them equipped with
>strong computer programs. Humans would be defeated in any CC-Game if they were
>not allowed to use computers themselve.
>
>The combo human-comp will always be very, very strong no doubt about that.
>
>regards Joachim

You won't deny that although all CC players use machines and top programmes only
a few of them become ICCF world champions. Hence, only few of them play really
sound chess. Therefore, programmers'll have to work loads of effort to make
their programmes play on par with strong advancers, if any.



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