Author: Uri Blass
Date: 02:18:30 08/26/05
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On August 26, 2005 at 05:08:11, Shaley wrote: >On August 26, 2005 at 04:53:58, Joachim Rang wrote: > >>On August 26, 2005 at 04:44:33, Shaley wrote: >> >>>On August 26, 2005 at 04:22:01, Jouni Uski wrote: >>> >>>>From CSS Online: >>>> >>>>"Neue wissensbasierte und extrem spielstarke Schach-Engine: Fritz9". Hmm does >>>>this mean: loses to Fruit, but it's strong against humans?! >>>> >>>>Jouni >>>Hi Jouni, >>> >>>Looks like a lot of people over here are crazy about Fruit even w/o trying it >>>over other engines. Lol! Someone used to post, it seems, that an 11 games' >>>tourney cannot be a proof of the programme's strengths or weaknesses. Long-term >>>testing should be done. No-one really knows how strong the new Fritz version >>>really is. As is said, "let's wait and see", right? Friedel used to tell me the >>>new engine is simply packed with chess knowledge. It is only some while after >>>when we get a chance of feeling it that we can see what he can do in reality >>>with Fruit, Zappa and other silicon monsters. I remember Frans Morsch said in an >>>interview that from now on they would be working to make this engine play sound >>>chess; not good chess from the point of view of beating machines or sound chess >>>for beating humans. They will try to make Fritz play universally sound chess; it >>>may compete very successfully against the machines as a result, he said. But >>>their ambition is to make an engine that will play very good chess in general >>>terms. >>>Cheers, >>>Alexander >> >> >>than they should have not started to implement imperfect human knowledge about >>chess into the engine. As a result they get an engine which plays for weak >>humans sound chess but not from an objective point of view. >> >>regards Joachim > >Well, don't you come to think you're using too strong a language about Fritz? >You can't call it bad, it's really sound. As to chess which you call imperfect, >I can tell you the chess of Anand, for instance, is sound enough. Same as chess >played by top CC players. Machines have no chance in a correspondence game, and >this is really the top chess to be produced. I do not think that they have no chance in a correspondence game. GM nickel beated hydra but lost against other chess engines in a correspondence game. Uri
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