Author: Shaley
Date: 03:15:56 08/26/05
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On August 26, 2005 at 05:23:38, Thorsten Czub wrote: >On August 26, 2005 at 04:44:33, Shaley wrote: > >>Looks like a lot of people over here are crazy about Fruit even w/o trying it >>over other engines. Lol! Someone used to post, it seems, that an 11 games' >>tourney cannot be a proof of the programme's strengths or weaknesses. Long-term >>testing should be done. > > >http://f50.parsimony.net/forum200336/messages/4971.htm > >28 round tournament. >time control 90+30. > > > > >> No-one really knows how strong the new Fritz version >>really is. > >Exactly. > > >> As is said, "let's wait and see", right? > > >no problem. you buy and we wait. and then we see. > > > > >> Friedel used to tell me the >>new engine is simply packed with chess knowledge. > > >! Wow. if Friedel tells you, it MUST be true. >he is the one who always said the truth and knows so much. >i would say he is the number one expert on earth. > > >> It is only some while after >>when we get a chance of feeling it that we can see what he can do in reality >>with Fruit, Zappa and other silicon monsters. > > >we don't have fruit iceland and zappa iceland so far. > >the fruit 2.1 and zappa 1.0 are much weaker then those versions playing in >iceland. or ?! > > > >>I remember Frans Morsch said in an >>interview that from now on they would be working to make this engine play sound >>chess; > > >i see. so the last 15 years fritz did not play SOUND ! :-)) > > > > >>not good chess from the point of view of beating machines or sound chess >>for beating humans. They will try to make Fritz play universally sound chess; > > >cool. >thats what hiarcs is doing for long time !! > > > >>it >>may compete very successfully against the machines as a result, he said. > > >may. maybe. > > >>But >>their ambition is to make an engine that will play very good chess in general >>terms. >>Cheers, >>Alexander > >i have no problem with them claiming whatever they want. >i will not buy the engine. >i will wait until you bought it and i wait until you publish your results. Thorsten, don't make me laugh. I never buy commercial programmes, except for ones written by Mark. I usually download them via the donkey system. And I'm not hot Fritz fan. You must have taken me for someone else, buddy. I've been a long-standing HIARCS fan for quite a while. But it sucks when people start coming up with dead rubbish and shit about other's programmers' stuff without any reasonable grounds. Have it (Fritz9, Hiarcs10, Fruit WCCC, Zappa WCC, etc), test it thoroughly against the rival products and only then you try making some clever comments.
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