Author: Joachim Rang
Date: 05:05:38 08/26/05
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On August 26, 2005 at 05:11:15, Shaley wrote: >On August 26, 2005 at 04:55:55, Joachim Rang wrote: > >>On August 26, 2005 at 04:52:17, Shaley wrote: >> >>>On August 26, 2005 at 04:41:22, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On August 26, 2005 at 04:22:01, Jouni Uski wrote: >>>> >>>>>From CSS Online: >>>>> >>>>>"Neue wissensbasierte und extrem spielstarke Schach-Engine: Fritz9". Hmm does >>>>>this mean: loses to Fruit, but it's strong against humans?! >>>>> >>>>>Jouni >>>> >>>>The secret is that humans are not good chess players so everything seems strong >>>>against them. >>>> >>>>Uri >>>Well, Uri, I can only half-agree with you here. Right, humans still cannot take >>>quick and right decisions in OTB chess, but in reality machines have little >>>chance against strong humans in correspondence chess, if they are not backed by >>>really skilful advancers. In reality it's machines that play bad chess against >>>top advancers like ICCF world ex-champions Michael Umansky or Grigory Sanakoev, >>>to name a few. >>>All the best, >>>Alexander >> >> >>they don't play against Umansy or Sanakoev they play against them equipped with >>strong computer programs. Humans would be defeated in any CC-Game if they were >>not allowed to use computers themselve. >> >>The combo human-comp will always be very, very strong no doubt about that. >> >>regards Joachim >BTW, you've missed my point. I ain't a hard supporter of Fritz stuff, my fave is >HIARCS. However, I'm against telling shit about the programme which is only >about to release. >All the best, >Alexander okay okay that's a different story. I'm not saying anything negative about Fritz 9 on the contrary I find it very interesting to include much chess knowledge in the engine. I think it can be a great tool for analysis and a great help for CC-Players. I find it even very courageous from Chessbase not to optimize for pure performance but for better understanding of human chess. But I disagree that such an approach leads to the best playing engine strictly from a performance point of view and I disagree that other engines like Frt play "stupid" or "unsound". They just play a computer style which is not so easy to judge. However they play also strong. kind regards Joachim
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