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Subject: Re: WCCC9 and WMCCC Paderborn June 1999

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 04:50:11 02/25/99

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On February 25, 1999 at 05:22:32, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:

>
>On February 24, 1999 at 19:29:02, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>...
>>I disagree.  While ELO per node will simply award the prize to slow searchers
>>and penalize the fast searchers, this sort of measure (ELO/Dollar) will allow
>>people who have to come with wimpy machines a shot at something.  IIRC, last
>>year some people were competing against 767MHz alphas using K200's.  Seem fair
>>to you?
>>
>>It would be a measure of some sort for the price/performance mark.  And it is
>>not strictly a measure of the price of the machine.  If that were true, then two
>>different programs would perform identically on identical hardware.  This is
>>clearly not the case, as a glance at any extended contest or the SSDF results
>>will show you.
>
>This would not penalize programs which are just poorly designed and perform
>badly. IMO, not the nodes/ses should be the criterion but the performance of the
>used hardware.
>
>May be we need a title "best ratio ELO/MHz"  or ELO/MIPS ? -:)

Well, i meant it as a joke. WMCC title is a big joke too in this
tournament.

You win this tournament, or you don't win this tournament.
Nowadays hardware is quite fast.

If crafty wins this tournament, then i won't say: it is because it gets
10M nodes a second.

Remember, winner takes it all.

However there are gonna be 2 winners here.

At 4 processors i get less than 70k a second, where others at a
poor microcomputer that was used previous WCCC already get that number.

Now the question is of course. How fair are 4 processors Xeon versus
1 brandnew K6-3, prob clocked to something like 500+ Mhz,
where most will get over 0.5M nodes a second.

What is the diff of 500k nodes a second versus 10M nodes a second?

Both search very deep. It'll slowly seems like quality of programs
is more important than quantity.

Any thoughts about that?

Greetings,
Vincent




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