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Subject: Re: MacHack VI

Author: kaqs.1662@bumpymail.com

Date: 17:23:01 08/28/05

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On August 28, 2005 at 20:01:12, David Mitchell wrote:

>I'm sorry I can't help you "resurrect" MacHack. I'm amazed that

Well... if I could find some PC based tools to disassemble it, I might have a
try at it.  I've done that with a few programs way back then.  Nothing quite
this complex though.

But I don't know how to do a pdp.  I've never used one.  The first big computer
I ever used was a vax with VMS.

>1). You seem to have found it, and

So am I.

I've figured for years that it was lost....


<2) You thought anyone else would have surfed into some dusty
>tape storage archive of PDP computers. :)

I just did a google search.  I was looking for something else and did "MacHack
pdp" into google, and it was the very first link....  The very first link!  (It
didn't used to be... must be some change in the way the do indexing at Google.)

That's why I figured somebody else had probably already found it.

But yes, I figured there was a possibility that nobody else had, so I thought
I'd mention it...[grin]


>Has Allan Turing's "hand" chess algorithm ever been set to play on a modern
>computer? That would be interesting. Also on the list of interesting historical
>programs would be Kaissa, the world champ of so many years ago.

I'm not a historian, but I don't know of any complete description of "TuroChamp"
 (I think that's what it was called.)  I know he attempted to implement it on a
computer, but that he gave up because it was so tedious.

I read somewhere that somebody did later finish it, but that it was a very poor
player...  But I can't find the reference.  It may have been my imagination.


As for Kaissa... I wouldn't even know who to contact to try and find out what
happened to it.

Heck, I don't even know who (or where) to contact Gillogy to see if he still has
Tech, David Kittenger to see if he still has the source for MyChess.   Or Atkin.
 Or Cooper & Kozdrowiki, Thompson, Slate, etc. etc. etc.

A couple years ago I did a little bit of hunting, but I just didn't know where
to contact people.

The only real leads I got hold of were 1) Robert Hyatt said he thought he might
have an old VAX copy of Blitz on a tape that he no longer had any way to read.
2) Marsland said he did indeed have a few old programs that were used for
research (TinkerBelle, etc.) but that he didn't have time to check.  I checked
back a few months later and didn't get a reply.

Beyond that... [shrug]




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