Author: Peter Kappler
Date: 16:09:42 08/30/05
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On August 30, 2005 at 11:26:31, Uri Blass wrote: >On August 30, 2005 at 10:40:54, Shaley wrote: > >>On August 30, 2005 at 08:48:13, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On August 30, 2005 at 08:22:25, Shaley wrote: >>> >>>>On August 30, 2005 at 08:14:10, Uri Blass wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 30, 2005 at 07:59:50, Shaley wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Of course, the Hydra's hardware seems to be more powerful, so I think this match >>>>>>will be a win for Hydra with some score advantage, may be 1-1.5 points. >>>>> >>>>>I do not think that Hydra is going to beat Zappa >>>>>Chess is not games of hardware and I do not think that the better hardware >>>>>always win. >>>>> >>>>>I am also not sure if Hydra's hardware is better. >>>>>We are not able to compare between them and nobody here has access to Hydra's >>>>>hardware. >>>>> >>>>>Uri >>>>When Hydra beat Shredder I thought it happened due to the better hardware. I >>>>must have been wrong then, it was a good hardware plus a tough programme, right, >>>>Uri? >>> >>>Or maybe it was a buggy version of shredder as sandro(responsible for the >>>opening book of shredder) reported in the past(Based on Sandro Stefan simply >>>deleted the part that handle sacrifices in shredder so it was blind about the >>>result of some sacrifices) >>> >>>Note that I guess that zappa2 is better than Shredder but it is only a guess and >>>I may be wrong. >>> >>>Uri >>No, I don't really think it was a buggy version of Shredder. Hydra beat Deep >>Shredder in a principal match with a suppressing score of 5.5:2.5. The match >>coverage is at http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1875 > >Sandro already explained here that it was buggy version of shredder and the sam >buggy version also played in WCCC of 2004 and Stefan did not notice the bug. > >You can choose not to believe him but it is a fact that it was claimed by >sandro. > >Of course stefan did not know about the bug when it happened and discovered only >later that he deleted some part of shredder by accident and based on sandro the >bug makes shredder weaker only at long time control and not at blitz so Stefan >did not discover in his tests that shredder is weaker. > >Uri I have doubts about how much this "bug" might have affected Shredder in that match, and I find it distasteful that Sandro offers it as an excuse for the result against Hydra. I can reverse Sandro's argument and claim that 5.5-2.5 was a lucky result for Shredder since Hydra probably has bugs, too. -Peter
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