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Subject: Re: 1 ply for Zappa 2.0 ;)

Author: Shaley

Date: 01:06:09 08/31/05

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On August 31, 2005 at 02:14:40, Uri Blass wrote:

>>>The problem is that it also knows by evaluation to play Rxe3+ in the following
>>>position inspite of the fact that the pawn endgame is drawn
>>>
>>>[D]8/2p2kp1/1p2p3/2p1p1PP/2P1P3/1r2BK2/4R3/3n4 b - -
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>      Hi Uri
>>      Interesting position I am going to check
>>      with Zappa 1.1 in the evening (here 8.05 a.m now).
>>      Kurt
>
>The position is taken from a game that was posted against zappa1.0 but I guess
>that 1.1 has the same problem because no improvement in pawn endgame was
>mentioned by anthony.
>
>
>see the following post
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?444681
>
>
>
>Uri

It's interesting that Hiarcs 9 and Fruit rate Rc3 as the best move, only Hiarcs
found it out at 7 ply and Fruit at 2 ply, although they saw it almost instantly.
Alexander

Analysis by Hiarcs 9:

1...Nxe3 2.Rxe3 Rxe3+ 3.Kxe3
  -+  (-1.73)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
1...Rc3 2.Re1 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rxc4 4.g6+ Ke7 5.Kg3 Rc1 6.Rf3 Rh1 7.Rf7+ Kd6 8.Kg4
Rg1+ 9.Kh4
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 7/10   00:00:00
1...Rc3 2.Re1 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rxc4 4.g6+ Ke7 5.Kg3 Rc1 6.Rf3 Rh1 7.Rf7+ Kd6 8.Kg4
Rg1+ 9.Kh4
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 7/10   00:00:00
1...Rc3 2.Re1 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rxc4 4.g6+ Ke7 5.Kg3 Rc1 6.Rf3 Rh1 7.Rf7+ Kd6 8.Kg4
Rg1+ 9.Kh4
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 7/10   00:00:00
1...Rc3 2.Re1 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rxc4 4.g6+ Ke7 5.Kg3 Rc1 6.Rf3 Rh1 7.Rf7+ Kd6 8.Kg4
Rg1+ 9.Kh4
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 7/10   00:00:00
1...Rc3 2.Re1 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rxc4 4.g6+ Ke7 5.Kg3 Rc1 6.Rf3 Rh1 7.Rf7+ Kd6 8.Kg4
Rg1+ 9.Kh4
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 7/10   00:00:00
1...Rc3 2.Re1 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rxc4 4.g6+ Ke7 5.Kg3 Rc1 6.Rf3 Rh1 7.Rf7+ Kd6 8.Kg4
Rg1+ 9.Kh4
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 7/10   00:00:00
1...Rc3 2.Re1 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rxc4 4.g6+ Ke7 5.Kg3 Rc1 6.Rf3 Rh1 7.Rf7+ Kd6 8.Kg4
Rg1+ 9.Kh4
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 7/10   00:00:00
1...Rc3 2.Re1 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rxc4 4.g6+ Ke7 5.Kg3 Rc1 6.Rf3 Rh1 7.Rf7+ Kd6 8.Kg4
Rg1+ 9.Kh4
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 7/10   00:00:00
1...Rc3 2.Re1 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rxc4 4.g6+ Ke7 5.Kg3 Rc1 6.Rf3 Rh1 7.Rf7+ Kd6 8.Kg4
Rg1+ 9.Kh4
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 8/11   00:00:00  1kN
1...Rc3 2.Re1 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rxc4 4.g6+ Ke7 5.Kg3 Rc1 6.Rf3 Rh1 7.Rf7+ Kd6 8.Kg4
Rg1+ 9.Kh4
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 9/15   00:00:00  3kN
1...Rc3 2.Re1 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rxc4 4.g6+ Ke7 5.Kg3 Rc1 6.Rf3 Rh1 7.Rf7+ Kd6 8.Kg4
Rg1+ 9.Kh4
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 10/15   00:00:00  4kN
1...Rc3 2.Re1 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rxc4 4.g6+ Ke7 5.Kg3 Rc1 6.Rf3 Rh1 7.Rf7+ Kd6 8.Kg4
Rg1+ 9.Kh4
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 11/15   00:00:00  6kN
1...Rc3 2.Re1 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rxc4 4.g6+ Ke7 5.Kg3 Rc1 6.Rf3 Rh1 7.Rf7+ Kd6 8.Kg4
Rg1+ 9.Kh4
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 12/18   00:00:00  12kN
1...Rc3 2.Re1 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rxc4 4.g6+ Ke7 5.Kg3 Rc1 6.Rf3 Rh1 7.Rf7+ Kd6 8.Kg4
Rg1+ 9.Kh4
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 13/21   00:00:01  31kN


Analysis by Fruit 2.1:

1...Nxe3 2.Rxe3
  µ  (-1.01)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
1...Ra3
  µ  (-1.05)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
1...Ra3 2.h6 Nxe3 3.Rxe3
  µ  (-1.01)   Depth: 2/8   00:00:00
1...Rd3 2.h6 Nxe3 3.Rxe3
  µ  (-1.13)   Depth: 2/8   00:00:00
1...Rc3 2.h6 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rxc4
  -+  (-1.80)   Depth: 2/8   00:00:00
1...Rc3 2.h6 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rxc4
  -+  (-1.80)   Depth: 3/8   00:00:00
1...Rc3 2.h6 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rxc4
  -+  (-1.80)   Depth: 4/11   00:00:00
1...Rc3 2.h6 gxh6 3.gxh6 Kg8 4.Re1 Nxe3 5.Rxe3 Rxc4
  -+  (-1.72)   Depth: 5/11   00:00:00
1...Rc3 2.h6 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rxe3+ 4.Kxe3 gxh6 5.gxh6 Kg6 6.h7 Kxh7
  -+  (-1.80)   Depth: 6/12   00:00:00  5kN
1...Rc3 2.h6 Kg6 3.Re1 Nxe3 4.Rxe3 Rxe3+ 5.Kxe3 gxh6 6.gxh6 Kxh6
  -+  (-1.92)   Depth: 7/13   00:00:00  8kN
1...Rc3 2.h6 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rxe3+ 4.Kxe3 gxh6 5.gxh6 Kg8 6.Kf2 Kh7 7.Ke3 Kxh6
  -+  (-1.92)   Depth: 8/13   00:00:00  12kN
1...Rc3 2.h6 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rxe3+ 4.Kxe3 gxh6 5.gxh6 Kg6 6.h7 Kxh7 7.Kd3 Kg6
  -+  (-2.16)   Depth: 9/19   00:00:00  25kN
1...Rc3 2.Re1 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rxc4 4.g6+ Ke7 5.Kg3 b5 6.Rf3 Ke8 7.Rf7 Rc3+ 8.Kg4
  -+  (-1.97)   Depth: 10/21   00:00:01  39kN
1...Rc3 2.Re1 Nxe3 3.Rxe3 Rxc4 4.g6+ Ke8 5.Ra3 Ke7 6.Ra7 Rd4 7.Rxc7+ Rd7 8.Rxd7+
Kxd7 9.Ke3
  -+  (-1.79)   Depth: 11/21   00:00:01  55kN
1...Rc3 2.Re1 Nb2 3.g6+ Ke7 4.h6 gxh6 5.Rg1 Kf8 6.Rc1 Rxc1 7.Bxc1 Nxc4 8.Bxh6+
Ke7 9.Bg5+ Kf8
  -+  (-1.64)   Depth: 12/23   00:00:04  281kN
1...Rc3 2.Re1 Nb2 3.g6+ Ke7 4.h6 gxh6 5.Rc1 Rxc1 6.Bxc1 Nxc4 7.Bxh6 Kf6 8.g7 Kf7
9.Kg4
  -+  (-1.70)   Depth: 13/26   00:00:08  834kN
1...Rc3 2.Re1 Nb2 3.g6+ Ke7 4.Kg4 Rxc4 5.Bg5+ Ke8 6.h6 gxh6 7.Bxh6 Nd3 8.g7 Kf7
9.Rg1 Rc2 10.Kh3
  -+  (-1.71)   Depth: 14/30   00:00:20  2132kN




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