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Subject: Re: a "simple" knight ending

Author: Vincent Lejeune

Date: 06:31:07 08/31/05

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On August 31, 2005 at 08:53:15, Bernhard Bauer wrote:

>On August 31, 2005 at 05:53:26, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>
>>[d]4K1nk/7p/8/7P/4N3/8/8/8 w - - 0 1
>>
>>A subtle knight placement, who allow white king a triangulation !
>>Hard for null-mover because zugzwang, unless you have the KNPKNP EGTB ;o)
>
>Hard for crafty, even if you set selective to 0,0.
>However, Zappa gives a mate in 30 within 10 seconds.
>Spike 10 announces mate in 28 within 90 sec, but the mate goes up to 43 in 1:54.
>Toga2 gives a score of 5.3 in 12 sec. The score goes up!
>SOS 5.1 gives a mate in 18 in 23 sec.
>
>Huh! Why are some programs so good at this position and others take so long?
>It cannot only be a null move issue.
>Kind regards
>Bernhard

Toga2 doesn't support EGTB, that's why it didn't find the mate

Here's the best sequence :

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "New"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "4K1nk/7p/8/7P/4N3/8/8/8 w - - 0 1"]

1. Kf8 h6 2. Kf7 Kh7 3. Nd6 Kh8 4. Ne8 Kh7 5. Ke6 Kh8 6. Kd6 Kh7 7. Kd7 Kh8 8.
Ke6 Kh7 9. Kf7 *

White succeed triangulation and we will the black knight because of zugzwang !
The shortest mate should be between 26 and 28 moves.





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