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Subject: Re: For what targets we can hope for free programs with source code

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 10:29:11 09/02/05

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On September 01, 2005 at 22:00:52, David Mitchell wrote:

>On September 01, 2005 at 19:57:26, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On September 01, 2005 at 16:50:38, David Mitchell wrote:
>>
>>Note that I am one of the members of the Israeli
>>chess rating committee(the committe is not only about rating but rating is one
>>of the subjects that they deal with it).
>>Members are all volunteers and we do not get money for it but it is important
>>for me to have a better rating system and it is clear that without a new >program it will not be easy to make changes in the rating system.
>>
>>I also have part of the data because GM Ram Sofer(the person who is resposible
>>for using the software that they have in the last months) sent me some access
>>files.
>>
>>Personally I know almost nothing about access so I simply translated the >columns to text files by copy and paste and wrote some program in C to >calculate statistics about the text files.
>>
>>I think that it is even better if the Israeli chess organization get rid of all
>>the access and simply save the results in text files and use some C program to
>>read text files and analyze them.
>>
>
>Trust me, Uri. You don't want to do that. You need a spreadsheet or a database
>program, or both. Too many benefits to list them all, but having different
>people work in diverse locations, with "some C program", is not what you want.
>
>Use Excel for a day, and you'll never want to go back to anything like this. You
>should be able to pick up an older (but perfectly good), version of Excel, by
>some company that has decided to upgrade to the latest version.
>
>Should be able to get it for very little money.
>
>
>
>
>
>>In that case if there is a mistake people only need to edit the text files.
>
>Oh yeah, there will be mistakes, count on it!
>
>>
>>
>>Note that I already have a program to analyze text files but the format of my
>>text file today is not good for editing because of the way that I copied the
>>data.
>
>There you go! No "homegrown" program will have half the features you will really
>want, or be half as easy to train others to use.
>>
>>I copied the data from the access file by copy and paste so I copied long
>>columns that is clearly easier than copying small lines that have only details
>>about a single game.
>>
>
>You should just use the Export data function. You can export your data in
>several formats, including ascii (text).

Thanks for your advice

Note that only now I am near a computer that can read the access files because
access is not installed in other computers but using the export data function is
very good idea.

It is a different format but I get all the table as a text in few seconds
instead of getting it in few hours.

If I understand correctly you say that using Excel is better than using access.
I did not know that it is so easy to translate access files to excel files.

Uri



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