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Subject: Re: OK, I am starting to realize

Author: Andreas Guettinger

Date: 17:11:08 09/02/05

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On September 02, 2005 at 18:23:13, A. Cozzie wrote:

>On September 02, 2005 at 17:35:41, Ryan B. wrote:
>
>>On September 02, 2005 at 10:06:44, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On September 02, 2005 at 09:03:14, A. Cozzie wrote:
>>>
>>>>That there is just going to be a lot of shit (good & bad) posted around here
>>>>about Zappa from now on.  I think I will just not read anything with Zappa in
>>>>the headline :)
>>>
>>>There are always going to be haters for the one who is standing on top.  Since
>>>you just won a world championship, you have earned a crowd of haters.  You do
>>>come across a bit brash at times (as do Hyatt, Vincent, and many other good
>>>chess programmers), and the impersonal nature of the internet will multiply that
>>>effect a thousand times.
>>>
>>>So I would not worry about it.  You are not going to please everyone.
>>>
>>>I would look at it this way:
>>>There are 6 billion people in the world.  One of them (you) happened to win a
>>>world championship this year for computer chess and the rest of them did not win
>>>it.  So if some of the 6 billion less one want to throw tomato and potato just
>>>figure that it is jealousy for the most part.  As is usual, the majority are
>>>silent and a few sqeaky gears are the ones that get noticed.
>>>
>>>IMO-YMMV.
>>
>>I think that brash attitude is what brings the hate.  Fabian is great programmer
>>with very quick success and has no haters that I know of.  The programmers of
>>Spike seem to have no haters here.  Amir Ban, and SMK get no hate.  All the
>>people I listed that do not get hate here have been nice and humble about their
>>successes in computer chess.
>
>But that is the weird thing.  If you search the archives, you can see that I
>very rarely talk about how Zappa plays.
>
>anthony

Which is probably the best you can do. I think Zappa speaks for itself, and
version1.1 is already strong on a amd64 single cpu. As I posted previously it
beat Fruit2.1 in a 10 games match 6-4 with 15'+5 on my linux box. I will play
more games when I have time.

The author of Zappa I remember from CCTs is a nice guy. Since winning the WCCC
and going commercial I found him tending a bit to sarcasm and irony. I find it a
bit strange to put possible customers off that own single cpu machines. Which is
app 80-90%  of the market right now. And especially since Zappa runs great on
only one CPU too. I imagine you want to sell as many copies as possible?

You are not obliged to comment all the results from Zappa in CCC. Maybe it's
better to ignore most of the posts. It's always hard to find a place in the
established, and people are generally upset if there are changes. They have to
get used to new things. I like program authors that talk more about chess
programming than about the results. Like Bob or Ed.

regards
Andy



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