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Subject: Re: Spike1.0a vs Toga II ended 20 to 20( with the last 10 games in PGN)

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 19:15:11 09/02/05

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On September 02, 2005 at 14:20:13, José Carlos wrote:

>On September 02, 2005 at 12:34:12, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On September 02, 2005 at 09:21:02, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>
>>>On September 02, 2005 at 09:17:54, Harry Schnapp wrote:
>>>
>>>>       Hi Kurt
>>>>       Most games were practically not played with my book !!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>       Only the first 4-5-6 moves!!!!!!!.
>>>>       Harry
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi Harry
>>>In that case we indeed have the proof that the games
>>>are worthless. Thanks for your information and please
>>>give Jorge Pichard an advice how to set up Arena correctly
>>>for the use of specific books -:)
>>>Kurt [http://www.utzingerk.com]
>>
>>
>>As long as both programs are using the same setup the the strength of the
>>program either with books or without books is shown with these 40 games.
>
>  This statement is clearly false in the general case. Take a starting position
>with black queen taken out, all of the other pieces in the starting position.
>White will always win no matter what programs you match, so both program will
>seem to be equally strong. Same setup does not imply fair conditions to measure
>strenght. Own book for each program do.
>
>  José C.
>

Jose the same will happen if you take the White Queen out, of course Black will
win all the time. When I said the same setup, I meant to say that Black and
White play with the exact setup, using the same book, as in this case the
Mainbook of Harry. Also if both programs play without Opening Books, no program
has any advantage as long as they alternate white and black after each game.

Jorge
>
>>PS: Take it however you want to take it, you can test Spikes 1.0a vs Toga II
>>without Books if you want. Your test was done with version 1.0 Mainz NOT with
>>version 1.0a.



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