Author: David Mitchell
Date: 02:10:45 09/03/05
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On September 02, 2005 at 17:24:41, Uri Blass wrote: >On September 02, 2005 at 09:02:09, A. Cozzie wrote: > >>>I really cannot see the point here. Do you mean that Leo is not trustable ??? >> >>No, the point was: Leo is not getting a copy for WBEC because no one is getting >>a copy until its released. At that point he can do whatever he wants re >>including Zappa in WBEC. >> >>Actually I wasn't annoyed so much about this post as much as the 'from zappa's >>play on playchess it is obvious it plays lots of weak moves and we are not >>afraid of it etc' >> >>Anyway, you will get your chance to kick zappa in a few weeks so be patient :) >> >>anthony > >I think that you do a mistake when you give noone a copy before Zappa2.0 is >released. > >My opinion is that this and the way you treated Leo will not encourage people to >buy Zappa. > >I did not decide if I will buy zappa and certainly the fact that you escape from >tournament like WBEC will not encourage me to buy it. > >I think that getting 3th place in WBEC after Fruit WCCC and Shredder is better >for you than not participating with Zappa2. > >Note that I did not say that it is obvious that zappa play a lot of weak moves >but I am clearly disappointed from the fact that you did not give zappa2 to >trusted testers like Leo so we can know nothing about it's results before it is >released. > >I decided not to buy Zappa immediately when it is released and I will wait to >result of testers and I will buy it only if I see that it performs well enough. > >Note that the delay in testing Zappa is not helping you because it is possible >there are going to be better free programs some weeks after zappa is released so >performance that is today good enough to justify buying zappa will not be good >enough later. > >Uri You're joking, right? Zappa gave an incredibly strong performance, one of the strongest in many years at WCCC, and you're not thinking it's strong enough to buy? That it needs further results from amateur testers? You're really joking, right? As you mentioned, Uri, AC has to get Zappa ready to roll out the door now - no time to spare. Padderborn, and further testing will have to wait until Zappa is ready to go. Having a tester working on a beta copy is just a poor idea, now. Every change made afterward will be viewed with suspicion and distrust. That's just no way to roll out a new product. I realize AC was a little rough around the edges with his mention of Leo, but it does seem that he and Zappa have become a huge magnet for every load of horse shit that can be dumped their way. And except for the Leo reference (and whether it was meant as humor or not, I have absolutely no idea. Unwise imo, in any case.), I believe I would have handled Zappa's roll out to a commercial program just like AC has. Why not give the guy a break, and be patient? See what Zappa turns out like, when it's ready. You might even like it! :) I'm sure in many future tournaments, Zappa will be a contestant, and right into the thick of the competition. But right now, AC needs to work on making Zappa a commercial product he can be proud of, not just a strong chess engine, but a total product. Go AC & Zappa! Dave
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