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Subject: Re: The Discussion Here Is About The Meaning Of Server-Games

Author: Andreas Guettinger

Date: 14:13:25 09/03/05

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On September 03, 2005 at 16:37:45, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>
>Excuse me if I insist. You are both wrong in your insinuations against Eduard.
>
>1. First of all even if Eduard would post such losses of Zappa just for the fun
>of it it would be allowed posting of naked facts! If someone wanted to see the
>wins of Zappa than it's his duty to go for himself and see. But I am pretty sure
>that Eduard is NOT doing this to make angry the author of Zappa.
>
>2. Someone does post factual losses. Where is the burden on him to post ALL
>games, among them also the wins of Zappa?? In my mind we are a group and if
>someone is posting losses, others are invited and FREE to post wins. Go for it
>if you like. But it's not allowed to insult Eduard for having mean motivations
>if he's posting losses of an engine he has observed with his own eyes!
>
>3. It is heavily wrong to aim now at Eduard and HIS chess if Eduard is posting
>about a chessprogram. Ad hominem is forbidden in such a forum, period. Do you
>want to imply that if Eduard is NOT strong enough, say, no World Champion
>himself, then he's not allowed to post losses of a veritable World Champion??
>That would be a completely wrong logic.
>
>4. The main scandal of the actual events is this: it seems as if the author of a
>winning WCCC program is allowed to accuse a poster of naked facts in unallowed
>ad hominem manner. I will go, he says, if such a poster is posting losses of my
>baby. I am angry and deeply insulted. - This is a failure of personal judgement.
>And also a winner at a WCCC doesn't get a superior insight in motivations of all
>other posters.
>
>5. People should apologize to Eduard. He hasn't done something wrong.

It's a good thing to see that Eduard has a lot of friends here.
Unfortunately that doesn't make a wrong thing right. It was not very nice to
post so many losses of Zappa, and not mention the wins. This gives a false
impression about Zappa. I don't comment if this was intended or not, but a lot
of readers had this impression. Zappa is going to be sold in future, and this
can have a bad influence on  Anthonies business. If a new product is announced
and somebody tries to decry it he can not expect the seller will like him for
that. Now if you do that with a product that is sold for years and everybody
knows, now that is sth else.
I think Eduard should apologize to Anthony.

bye
Andy



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