Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 14:23:07 09/03/05
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On September 03, 2005 at 17:13:25, Andreas Guettinger wrote: >On September 03, 2005 at 16:37:45, Rolf Tueschen wrote: > >> >>Excuse me if I insist. You are both wrong in your insinuations against Eduard. >> >>1. First of all even if Eduard would post such losses of Zappa just for the fun >>of it it would be allowed posting of naked facts! If someone wanted to see the >>wins of Zappa than it's his duty to go for himself and see. But I am pretty sure >>that Eduard is NOT doing this to make angry the author of Zappa. >> >>2. Someone does post factual losses. Where is the burden on him to post ALL >>games, among them also the wins of Zappa?? In my mind we are a group and if >>someone is posting losses, others are invited and FREE to post wins. Go for it >>if you like. But it's not allowed to insult Eduard for having mean motivations >>if he's posting losses of an engine he has observed with his own eyes! >> >>3. It is heavily wrong to aim now at Eduard and HIS chess if Eduard is posting >>about a chessprogram. Ad hominem is forbidden in such a forum, period. Do you >>want to imply that if Eduard is NOT strong enough, say, no World Champion >>himself, then he's not allowed to post losses of a veritable World Champion?? >>That would be a completely wrong logic. >> >>4. The main scandal of the actual events is this: it seems as if the author of a >>winning WCCC program is allowed to accuse a poster of naked facts in unallowed >>ad hominem manner. I will go, he says, if such a poster is posting losses of my >>baby. I am angry and deeply insulted. - This is a failure of personal judgement. >>And also a winner at a WCCC doesn't get a superior insight in motivations of all >>other posters. >> >>5. People should apologize to Eduard. He hasn't done something wrong. > >It's a good thing to see that Eduard has a lot of friends here. >Unfortunately that doesn't make a wrong thing right. It was not very nice to >post so many losses of Zappa, and not mention the wins. This gives a false >impression about Zappa. I don't comment if this was intended or not, but a lot >of readers had this impression. Zappa is going to be sold in future, and this >can have a bad influence on Anthonies business. If a new product is announced >and somebody tries to decry it he can not expect the seller will like him for >that. Now if you do that with a product that is sold for years and everybody >knows, now that is sth else. >I think Eduard should apologize to Anthony. > >bye >Andy No, sorry, Andy. CCC is mainly a forum dedicated to science and the truth. You would be well advised if you wouldn't post such things as the above, namely that the writing about factual lossed of a certain Zappa version could hurt the business interests of Anthony. If we begin to accept such ideosyncrasies we end in madness and witchhunting of the Middle Ages. We shouldn't go such low. Also I dont see why a commercial program shouldn't lose games against other programs. Let's forget about such a hybris. All progs are losing games. Best, Rolf
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