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Subject: Re: The drawback of using GM Openings for today super smart program........

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 07:49:56 09/04/05

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On September 04, 2005 at 06:21:50, Sandro Necchi wrote:

>On September 04, 2005 at 05:41:43, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On September 04, 2005 at 05:37:48, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>Too many people like to use long GM's Openings for computer programs, but there
>>>is a drawback to this approach. Todays computer programs has reached a level of
>>>play that is higher than some of the best GM players. In order to avoid this
>>>from happening, most Opening Expert like Necchi and Harry Schapp to name a few
>>>will have to consider checking each opening where the two GM left as an even
>>>game with the top programs to analyse up to at least 6 more moves and only if
>>>after those 6 moves if the opening is still consider even, then the opening
>>>could be included with the rest of its opening library. We should be very
>>>carefull not to feed long Opening line above 12 moves from GMs. Please take a
>>>look a this game, and how many other bad human openings are still there in some
>>>of the best programs that we constanstly pit or match, favouring one side or the
>>>other. Here is a famous game where two of our best computer monsters were using
>>>the exact bad opening fed directly from a game of two GMs:
>>
>>PS: That is the reason why I limit Opening lines up to 12 half moves, specially
>>if those openings were played by human GM.
>
>Well, this is the simple way to avoid those problems, but not the best way to
>improve the book.
>
>Of course to work on the book extending and checking the lines takes a lot of
>time unless one can use the computer support...I have new ideas on this matter,
>so with the help of Stefan we should be able to see clear advances on this field
>too.
>
>Sandro
>

Yes, it does take time to check the lines at the end of every openings with a
computer at least 6 moves deeper, but it is a safe way to avoid disaster and
every opening book which derived from human GM should be checked.

Jorge
>>
>>http://wired-vig.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,68243,00.html



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