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Subject: Re: WCCC9 and WMCCC Paderborn June 1999

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 09:32:57 02/28/99

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On February 24, 1999 at 21:31:57, Peter McKenzie wrote:

>On February 24, 1999 at 07:57:48, Don Beal wrote:
>
>>The 9th World Computer Chess Championship takes place in Paderborn
>>June 14-20 1999.
>>
>>This event incoporates the 1999 World Microcomputer Chess Championship - the
>>highest placed program running on a single generally-available
>>microprocessor wins the WMCCC title.
>
>I think this is less than ideal for the reasons outlined below.  Not sure what
>can be done about it, probably nothing :-)  Perhaps some discussion will throw
>up some ideas.  Anyway, the reasons:
>
>1) The swiss tournament system is specifically designed to find a fair
>tournament winner.  Once you start looking at the minor places it becomes less
>clear who really 'deserves' second place etc.  For a given field size, there is
>a recommended number of rounds to find a fair tournament winner.  If you want to
>fairly hand out Nth (where N > 1) prize, that recommended number of rounds will
>typically increase.  This stuff is well documented somewhere, probably the FIDE
>rules.  Perhaps someone could post the relevant numbers for a 32 player
>tournament?
>
>The whole thing for WCCC/WMCCC is complicated by the fact that we don't even
>know what N will be!  Maybe the best micro will win it, in which case there
>won't be a problem.  But maybe the best micro will place 5th, in which case
>there is decent chance that it will have actually performed worse than whatever
>placed 6th.
>
>2) There is a dilemma for people who can run on SMP machines (I'm picking that
>at least 4 strong micro programs will face this dilemma).  Do they run SMP,
>thereby having a better chance for the WCCC title, but rule out their WMCCC
>chances completely?
>
>
>Actually both of the above points actually favour my program (if it is
>accepted).  Point (1) effectively adds some randomness to the result of WMCCC
>which helps my program as it won't be a favourite.  And point (2) will surely
>weaken the competition for WMCCC.
>
>>
>>This a reminder to anyone who was intending to enter, or contemplating
>>entering, that the deadline for making an application is very near (1 March).
>>
>>More information about the event, and the application form, are on the ICCA
>>web pages: http://www.dcs.qmw.ac.uk/~icca/
>>
>>We expect an exciting tournament, and hope to see as many of you as
>>possible there.
>
>Yes, should be good.  Thanks for organising it!
>
>>
>>Don Beal.

I am disappointed that this didn't receive any response.  The proposal here is
to do a 7-round Swiss (probably with 24 entrants) and use it to determine two
champions.

Assuming that one program doesn't win both the titles, this means that one of
the other places in the tournament would have to "count".  Does anyone know
enough about the Swiss system to know if this is really possible?

bruce



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