Author: Don Dailey
Date: 11:47:10 02/28/99
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On February 27, 1999 at 22:28:15, Matt Frank wrote: >On February 27, 1999 at 15:36:22, Bruce Moreland wrote: > >> >>A learning function has nothing to do with how "evolved" a chess program is. >>Beyond a doubt it is a good thing to have in a program, but it says nothing >>about the state of the rest of the program. I'm sure it would have had a >>learning function if it had to compete in an environment where a learning >>function would have added any strength. >> >>The strength comparison on a P2/450 is meaningless, it's like saying that a >>Volkswagen Beetle is better than a dragster because if you put a Volkswagen >>engine in the dragster, the Volkswagen would do a faster quarter mile. >> >>bruce > >Bruce: > >Although I agree that a learning function isn't the ONLY factor differentiating >Deeper Blue from the best micro prog I still argue that Deeper Blue was >handicapped by not fitting it's hardware as well as the best micro progs fit >their respective hardware mates today. This factor (i.e., more chess playing >power per computing speed) and newer algorithms have been extremely important in >the "evolution" of programs recently. This is very influential in explaining why >Deeper Blue isn't quite as far ahead as some assume (see the post that I >responded to for the assumption that I disagree with). > >Sincerely, >Matt I think you are absolutely correct Matt. But be careful, this is a dangerous conversation. I'm sure you are about due for the "you don't know what you are talking about speech" or something similar. I don't see your statement as taking anything away from the massive effort the talented Deep Blue team put into their project. I see your statement as just plain common sense and logical. Bruce is right too, it's not fair to try to scale our programs to their hardware. I don't think the learning thing is very relevant but I understand what you are saying, I believe there are dozens of little micro-engineered things (like this) that micro's almost certainly do better. I think you hit the nail on the head when you say Deep Blue is not as far ahead as most assume. - Don
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