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Subject: Re: Why cant Zappa, Diep etc implement as Shredder did? Fritz too ftm.

Author: Zheng Zhixian

Date: 10:04:26 09/07/05

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On September 06, 2005 at 17:32:51, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On September 06, 2005 at 16:45:20, Marc Lacrosse wrote:
>
>>On September 06, 2005 at 15:54:57, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Xboard is the best protocol for play, I think, but it is useless for
>>>configuration.
>>>
>>>UCI is far better for that.
>>>
>>>I would like to see the two protocols merged.
>>
>>With both Wb2UCI (thanks Odd Gunnar) and Polyglot (thanks Fabien) we have them
>>merged. Today.
>
>NOthing close to that.
>
>You want to set up your Winboard for 256 MB hash and to find the Nalimov
>tablebase files on e:/nalimov;f:/nalimov-overflow
>How will Wb2UCI or Polglot help at all?
>
>I do not want to edit any ini files.
>
>>Just a little rough on the edges...
>>
>>An example: combining TheKing chessmaster engine with WB2uci and PG you can
>>adjust any parameter and have it play under WB with your own book choice.
>>This is impossible in any other modern GUI or configuration without horribly
>>painful manoeuvers.
>>
>>If we could get WB2UCI + Polyglot working in a little more user-friendly
>>interface, than we would have the perfect intermediate solution between any
>>engine and any GUI.
>>
>>... at the exception of the deliberately schizophrenic chessbase engines, but
>>this is another story, and we can begin to hope that their hegemonic story is
>>beginning to go to its lonely end.
>
>The way to fix it is to provide a comprehensive single protocol that has all the
>strengths of both protocols and none of the weaknesses.

That's not going to help.

Chessbase products has already set the dangerous precedent of supporting
UCI/WInboard in their interface but their engines aren't/

Now vendors of other professional products are starting to use that as an excuse
to do the same thing.

Why wouldn't they? It forces people to buy their GUI, it ensures that their
engine will always be running as expected since they control the GUI...

With time, every product will have their own GUI which supports
UCI/Winboard/whatever but with their engines locked in to the GUI.

What use is if every interface supports UCI/WB but their engines don't??






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