Author: KarinsDad
Date: 09:51:03 03/01/99
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On March 01, 1999 at 08:53:40, Mark Young wrote: >On March 01, 1999 at 00:59:25, KarinsDad wrote: > [snip] >> >>5) A GM only plays multiple computer programs and multiple humans on the chess >>server that he can beat (as per your earlier post Mark). This would be skewed, >>but I doubt it happens often. Since GMs play chess for a living, the tendency >>for them would be to play challenging opponents in order to stay in fighting >>trim. >> [snip] >> >>Taking the extreme case (at the end of the spectrum) and pointing out that if >>this player did something similar to what may or may not be happening in a high >>percentage of cases on the chess servers isn't quite valid. For one thing, there >>are several GMs playing the computer chess programs on the chess servers. These >>same GMs also play against other GMs and other lower rated players. Although >>some of the GMs are avoiding the programs, that does not invalidate their >>ratings or their ability or the ratings or abilities of the GMs who do not avoid >>the programs. Also, you could limit your data collection to those GMs who do not >>avoid the chess programs if you wanted to make it less "skewed" or more >>"controlled" (as was done in the original post). >> > >Correct, that was my point. The problem is there is no way to tell which GMs >played computers, and which GMs did not. So the data has many sub pools of >ratings in them, and some GMs and computers have badly skewed ratings and so do >not. Example. Look at the ICC Blitz ratings List. I see many human players above >all the computer ratings. I would bet if the those human players had to play any >account within 400 rating points of them, and could never refuse to play a >computer account. You would see the Blitz ratings list with only computers at >the top. Yes. This is an example of my #5 in the previous message. For players under the GM level, I would think that this would occur with a much greater frequency due to cheating and/or just limiting your opponents. I do not empathize with the kick some people must get out of this, but I doubt it would skew the data signficantly at the GM level. KarinsDad > >Mark > > >>KarinsDad >> >>> >>>Mark >>> >>> >>[snip]
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